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Originally Posted by TheDon
correct me if im wrong but the religous side says god created everything... so .. what created him.. did he create himself?
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That's probably the main reason religion has never appealed to me. It just doesn't have any answers that make sense and it makes no effort to find the real truth. Science on the other hand, while it doesn't have answers to everything, is a sincere effort to find the truth whatever it may be, and to present the findings in a verifyable way whenever possible. Without science we would still be living in caves with a 30-40 year life expectancy. The truth is even if you're religious you don't have to distrust science. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive. Some of the greatest scientists were religious. The difference between them and ID proponents is that they were not satisfied with the "God made it so" answer, they wanted to know more, particularly how. Evolution is an explanation of "how". It doesn't mean God doesn't exist. ID, on the hand, says "God made it so, end of discussion." IMO it just kills all curiosity and quest for knowledge.