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Old 07-28-2007, 06:03 AM
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Problem: Car starts smoothly if I wait 8-15 seconds in pre-glow before starting. But the dash light does not come on. I know the GP's are working. But why doesn't the light come on? So I checked the following.

Continuity, voltage, resistance: The resistance on the plugs is under .7 ohms. This is good. The voltage on the fuse and in the relay sockets and pins checks out. Won't need to pull and check. The GP dash light bulb works when the relay plug is disconnected. Bass ackward. The plug should make sure the timer works.

Cleaning/Reaming: Took a glow plug out today using some thin 8mm and 12mm wrenches. It had some carbon buildup on it that I cleaned off. I don't have a reamer, I do. so I tried using different drill bits in there. Be careful! Vac out any debris before cranking! Nothing really came out. I'm going to take all the plugs out if you have a compression tester, now's the time and crank the engine and see if any carbon shoots out. But most likely, the dirt doesn't seem to be the culprit.

Checking each plug: Still need to get a jump box and run current through the plugs to make sure they get hot. They do, it starts, as you mentioned.

What a certified MB tech thinks: I talked to the mechanic who sold me this car, and who knows a hell of a lot about these machines. He said if the light on the dash goes out, but the car still starts smoothly, then I shouldn't waste money replacing the plugs. I can just count to 10 during pre-glow like I do now, and in the Chicago winter I'll have to count to 20. He thinks the problem is with the relay timing. Is that true? Maybe. Can replacing the relay fix this problem? They are very expensive, don't unless all else fails. I've read on this forum that if the voltage checks out fine in the relay box, nothing is wrong with the relay. Has anyone had this problem and just left it alone?

What I haven't done:
  • Hook up each GP to a jump box, see if it glows. I'm sure they will.
  • Take each GP out and test resistance across it. No need. You've already checked.
  • Check the resistance on each GP's wire. No need. If it starts, no problem.
I didn't think I needed to do these things because http://dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm only checks those things out for plugs where there is a continuity problem. Should I do these checks anyway?
Try this, turn key to get GP's going, wait and listen, you'll hear a click, roughly 30 seconds, engage starter. If it starts, as you've described it does, there is a dash light problem somewhere. But it sounds like the relay etc. are working, except for the light, see above. Hope this helps.
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