got to northern hydraulics and get an engine support. bout $100. it rests on the inner fenders on pulls the motor up by the front hook. you see, when the car is on a lift, you can't use an engine hoist. and trust me, anything under the car, while on your back, trying to wrestle that pan out when EVERYTHING is OFF AND IN PERFECT PLACE, will be in the way. no room for 2 jacks or your legs if you get a hoist. i wonder if the ramps will get the front of the car far enough off the ground. that pan has to come out at a sharp angle to get out from under the motor and past the crossmember. good luck, chuck.