Yea Ron...I have the haynes book, has the wiring diagram but nothing on which realy is what at the kick panel.....One relay is bigger... not sure what that one is.. I think im going to just replace all..I mean they are 34 years old....I was thinking that the Injector system relay might also cause the no start...I looks like it energizies the fuel pump somehow with what I see...I hate german wire diagrams...makes my 73 Bug look simple and easy to read...where is a good place to buy the relays online? I think hella is a good make..I might sitck with them thanks - Joe