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Old 02-20-2009, 02:04 AM
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Confused

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Originally Posted by JonL View Post
I hope I'm not a simpleton, maybe I am. I replaced my mounts about two weeks ago. I think I remember that all the threaded holes are in the mount. The aluminum bracket and the sub-frame (permanent part of the chassis in the W201) are both clearance holes. It's a W201 190D. Am I missing something?

If I'm wrong and there are threaded holes that get buggered up in more permanent parts, Heli-CoilŪ to the rescue.

Really, I'm struggling to understand why these bolts are considered to be a big deal.
Your logic appears to be:
* Damaged parts should be re-used until they totally fail, requiring additional time, money, and/or energy to repair.

Sorry, that defies both Logic and Common Sense..


Engine mounts are safety = Heli-CoilŪ repair should be the LAST resort, it can fail the wrong way during a traffic impact, possibly killing you or others...


Example of repair:
W123 and W126 engine mount

If the two small upper Allen cap screws are damaged/rounded, the mount will NOT come off the frame!!!

If the large lower Allen cap screw is damaged/rounded, the engine will not separate from the mount!!!

If the inner upper and the lower cap screw are damaged:
* You must raise and support the vehicle high enough for drill access underneath
* Drill the head off the lower bolt
* Raise and support the engine
* Drill, saw, or grind out the upper bolt head, (any V8 is seriously difficult to access)
* Remove the mount
* Extract the threaded stubs
* Replace the engine mount
* Replace the destroyed cap screws with NEW


This repair could have been avoided by replacing six damaged fasteners..


Here is a short list of some vehicles using these mount bolts.

W123
280TE W123.000 M110.000
200, 230, 230E W123.023 M115.954
280E W123.033 M110.984
230C, 230CE, 280CE W123.053 M110.984
200D, 220D, 240D W123.123 OM616.912 I4
300D W123.130 OM617.912 I5
300D-T W123.133 OM617.952 I5
300CD Coupe W123.150 OM617.912
300CD W123.153 OM617.952 OM617.912
300TD W123.190 OM617.912
300TD W123.193 OM617.952 OM617.912
230E W123.223 M102.I4
200T, 230TE, W123.283 M102.000

W126
280SE W126.000
300SE W126.024 M103.981 I6
300SEL W126.025 M103.981 I6
380SE W126.032 M116.961/963 V8
380SEL W126.033 M116.961/963 V8
420SEL W126.035 M116.965 V8
500SEL W126.037 M116.963 V8
560SEL W126.039 M117.968 V8
380SEC cpe W126.043 M116.963 V8
500SEC cpe W126.044 M117.963 V8
560SEC cpe W126.045 M117.968 V8
300SD W126.120 OM617.951 I5
300SDL W126.125 OM603.961 I6
350SD W126.134 OM603.970 I6

Last edited by whunter; 02-20-2009 at 02:22 AM.
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