Ok, here's the drill: I find a guy selling 4 new 195/70/14 tires on ebay starting at 100.00. I call him to find if they are speed-rated.
They are El Dorado Legend touring tires. He tells me that they are 80k tires, M+S rated and are extremely quiet. They are S rated. These are new, not irregulars or blems, and are not closeouts. Fully guaranteed. I ask him how much for 4 shipped to me in Wild-sconsin. He says $51.00. Per tire? NO- THE SET OF FOUR! I'm tempted to order just for the heck of it.
He says this is a family business, "good guys tires" and they've been around for 30 years but are new to on-line business and ebay. I asked him for a business reference and he did not hesitate to give me a name and telephone #.
SO...anybody have experience with these tires? He swears they are the best touring tire he's ever sold.