Don't know Jim. I seem to only get to the lot after hours so I haven't talked to anyone yet. I was hoping someone would steer me away before it got to the point of test driving and chin rubbing! I don't know how some replies took on a personal flame just because someone gave an opinion! I guess we have such strong emotions about our cars that we tend to attack those that disagree. I should have known better than ask opinions. I may just buy a late model Mustang and be the scourge of all the "purists" here. :p