I tryed really sanding them and that didn't work.
I tryed getting new pads and that didn't work
I bit the bullet and bought new rotors and the did finally work, but in the process I think I know what the problem might have been. When I took the old rotors off, they were rusted to the hub, at the center. With the rotors held firmly at the center it makes them like a bell. I could prove that theory by putting them back on, I just need the motivation.