Old tires is a minus. Pain to ship and throw-away item anyway. I have a supply of these wheels also and I can say that if you have the chance to buy some, do it. Best performance improvement you can make for your W113, W108, W114, etc. while maintaining the stock appearance. Also a good choice for those older cars with 13" wheels that are wanting to go 14". Steel wheel = 23 pounds. Aluminum wheel = 11 pounds. These will _not_ work with the dog-dish hubcap and beauty trim ring, but they will work with the "full wheel cover" hubcap that Mercedes used from 1968 - 198x.