Frasier was a bruising puncher too....perhaps more so than Ali, but his main thing was digging in deep and pounding the body. I think Ali peed blood for a week after fighting him....but Joe took so much punishment too his eyes were swollen shut. He looked like he had messed with an angry hornets nest!

...sting like a bee!

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