Yup, I avoid American Standard. A shame, not a good sign that a company with that name is moving towards the rear of the pack.

A big time plumber on another site recommended Moen as being good bang for the buck. Plumbing is hard to fake - in person or online. I can tell this guy is the real deal. I've bought a couple of Moen pieces and they've done well for me.

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K