What I don't get is the way it comes and go. Saw palmetto with pygeum used to work pretty well and then seemed to lag in effectiveness. Then a couple of months ago during a bad flare up I bought a brand I previously used and it had a big effect, or sure seemed to. Not sure if placebo action was going on, somehow I doubt it.

I'll check that out, that sure what peperine is; on search they asked if I meant piperine.

I see these ads for catheters and think 'get thee behind me Satan.' Do NOT want to use catheters, never have. Once or twice I thought, whoops, here it come. But then it got better. So this lower invasion approach looks pretty good. Don't want to get impotent from surgery.

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