Trump, Pence, and Bolton are pathological liars. The three of them are all too aware that people will die and actually have so far as a result. Now Bolton is talking about dealing with yet another south American country as well. Bringing them freedom? Then who is next if this is not stopped?

In Venezuela's case they have a population of about 30 million. They have built 4 million new houses for their poor. The poverty rate there has been reduced from 71 percent to 21 percent from 1996 to 2010. Report after report claims their situation is not as American foreign policy claims..

They want and need the social programs they have now. Like most countries they are required for countries to evolve into modern states. This is the age of people not corporations. Trump once again infers Americans citizens will get none of the needed social benefits... Programs give more freedom and security to all citizens. They also are the best way to moderate the effects of poverty. Increasing the birth rate as well.

One other thing of great concern at least to me. Some form of natural balances develop between countries over time. The regime change not only seems to destroy a countries developed place in the order of things.. It is also totally unknown what the results will be.

To me at least there is a lot of evidence it is a general failure. So the inclination to continue this approach. Does not really make much common sense.

For example is America in better financial condition today then it was twenty years ago? Is the population in better social condition? Can anyone point out where one of the illegal interventions worked out for the better?

Could the amount of effort and money expended have helped America? If it had been directed inward? I really suspect it could have with average more reasonable people in power with less corporate interference. I never went along with the industrial gutting of America for example for the reasons given. I was somewhat vocal in the early 1980s that it was problematic. There has been far too much information held back from the public. Things in my opinion of a very important context.

American corporate interests from the earlier years have been opposed to giving the public anything. Only in America do unfettered and unregulated corporations exist. The president in the early 1930s met serious difficulties from them to get social security and unemployment insurance for the masses. Even that long ago.

He only prevailed as he reminded them. Unless the population are given something at this time. The capitalist system they enjoy may cease to exist as it is. So they folded temporarily.

Remember also that unions evolved because the largest and most profitable enterprises of their time. Would not even allow ten minutes for lunch breaks. It took unions to get even that.

America's government has been doing the best they can at illegally damaging economies. Including it's own unfortunately. Some statistics indicate at a rate of six percent decline per year currently for the lower American middle class.

I hope that American citizens are not buying into the propaganda. The whole intent of course is to get the American oil companies back into Venezuela regardless of cost.

If the oil companies had to pay the cost they would just pay a fair price for the oil there. Instead the American taxpayer just gets saddled with an ever greater deficit to do the oil corporations bidding. Since whatever is finalized it makes no difference at the gas pumps. Only the oil corporations can actually benefit. What is almost certain is it will destroy the peoples progress in Venezuela's society.

Have any members looked at the corporate balance sheets lately? When is enough money enough? The industry would not have been nationalized there if the corporations had played fair. To start with.

Perhaps it is time to nationalize them in north America. Or at least put the controls on them that have proved necessary in other countries. For the protection of the country and the masses. Personally I think they have already become too powerful to do much of anything with.

I thought if the American citizens started peaceful demonstrations might be the only vehicle to get change. As the vote will not stop many things that are going on.

At the same time since they would be declared as against the national interest. There is a possibility of intentional violence being used against them. With a false pretext for it. True freedom of speech may no longer exist.

Is there a long term plan in place for the actual residents of America at all? I know as a Canadian I am very disappointed in two things that have occurred here in Canada by our government. Indicating to me that even here there has been a change in how our government functions.

Our Canadian government getting involved in arresting the Chinese companies chief financial officer in Canada. For America. Frankly it smells. Plus going along with America for a corrupt form of regime change in Venezuela.

The vast majority of Canadians do not like it. For the first I know of no reason a Chinese national residing in China. Can be subject to American laws. Unless she committed a crime inside America. Secondly there exists far too much evidence of how a country goes down the drain. When American intervention to give them freedom is enacted. Personally I hope both these issues are failures.

I have no interest in any situation that disrupts a countries right to exist in a reasonable peaceful fashion. That may result in many women and children being killed there. With their whole lives changed for the worse as an end result.

Last but not least. I am not anti American. Other than having a lot of issues with the policies developed by the American administrations. Or perhaps forced to follow. To watch Trump with all the constructed lying involved in his speech from end to end. About Venezuela drove me to post this.

The economic problems they have encountered there. Are a direct result of external illegal manipulations. I can also see a few members of their military and the self proclaimed puppet being charged with treason at some point.