Thanx again. I will try your experiment. Have removed the carpet and will take a crack at it. My philosophy is much more simple...I'm lazy...so going after the fader wheel is the path of least resistance. Thanx again.

------------------
Scott

'91 300E 91k
Black Pearl/Gray
Eurolights/clear corners
AMG style wheels

'72 280 SEL 4.5 247k
Navy over Silver