Thanks for the replies guys. I flip through Fine's book every now and then at the bookstore. I grew up on a Petrof grand. Gotta love the European sound, didn't like "bad" pinblock which eventually got replace. I'd like to get a grand around Steinway B size. Hell I might even get a "B" if I could find one around here that I liked. So far no luck. But... I heard an Estonia the other day. I'd never heard of Estonias before but apparently they're gaining in popularity. Beautiful separation of voices in the upper registers, good strong fundamental and sustain in the bass, wonderful super straight grained Euro-spruce soundboard. Trouble is, I don't know anyone who owns one. The price frightens me plus the fact that it was made in a former Soviet Republic. Can you actually produce a good piano and sell it for 17k?

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