The intent of this post was not to be "for and against" Mercedes. But it has gone off hand.

To all those refering to whinners as such. All I can say without criticism there is no room for improvement. Although negative criticism is not very constructive, it does however point out a problem that needs to be addressed by MBUSA. More customers are being unsatified with this (let us all remember that) "product".

I think MB made its best cars in the 80's and was far ahead in the industry than anyone else. Car makers brag now about features that were on MB 15 years ago. And some still don't have em till today.

Those of you with the 15-20 year old car with 150K+.....justifying or arguing you point in this subject cannot understand the unhappy experience that "relatively" new owners (2-6 years, or 50-80K miles). Face it your cars were made with a different mind set than ours. Yours were made with the 200Kmiles in mind, whereas ours were made with maybe the 100K miles durability in mind.

So please unless it is POSITIVE critisim you have ......really come on !!!! negativity is not getting you or us anywhere!!!!