i do have a trailer that i was thinking about using, possibly for storage too. when i talked to them they said " sure we can put it in yours," but they seemed a little confused. i would rather just give them a barrel for now, let me experiment some, and then after i have picked it up several times (and they dont think i am an idiot and it will fall through) maybe then i can ask them to cubie it.

i will try to show up with some of my friends too, kinda make them happy and make my case stronger. tomorrow i will call around and see what type of barrels i can gather up. thanks for all the input so far, gave me lots of places to drive to, or call up.

Dan