Right. Just try to find someplace that will let you start hauling in drums of Methanol.

Only place I know of that would GLADLY let us rent is the Beech plant off 36. They've had rocket fuel stored there for years (can't move it) and the perchlorate hazard is high. They would probably be fine with something as innocuous as methanol (comparatively of course.)

Problem is, best lease is $7,200/month for 13,000sf.

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Good for Dad's car, hehe. There are several types of additives out there although not many specifically designed for B100. Most react with the percentage of dino diesel in the blend and that gives a false reading and the results are posted as being such and such for biodiesel ect. when in reality the only thing being treated is the dino.
The all round best solution that I have been able to find in vanquishing the cold weather geling factor of B100 is heat. I am in the proces of setting up a two tank system a la SVO/WVO system for cold weather use of Biodiesel. The tanks and lines are heated from trunk to IP, so no possibility of geling at 80C (180F). It will actually atomize better than dino at those temps.
In the warmer summer months when heat is not required for B100 I have installed ball valves that enable me to shut off the heat to the spare tank and lines at will from the engine bay.
I have yet to see or hear of a system that will work better than this. The cost outlay in setting up a homemade two tank system is not that great and as a side line bonus also gives the flexibility of running SVO in it as well. By starting and stoping on dino and running a tank full of BD ever 4th or 5th tank will ensure that no coking takes place in the pistons due to the biodiesel's cleansing properties.
Why would I want to get rid of big oil's dependance just to turn around and be dependant on some "additive" supplier when heat is all that is needed to solve the problem?

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Why are so many people waiting for someone else to do it for them ? Make your own, it's not THAT hard, and after start up costs that will be determined by the type and size reactor wash tank set up you decide on,the cost of production is WAY down from what you would pay someone else to do it and there is more than not of a possibility that you will make better fuel too as you will be making it for yourself and will pay extra attention to details, things commercial producers have been shown not to do so much at times and have even had to recall bad BD due to that fact.
As i posted elsewhere the time you invest is not calculated any more than the time you would spend golfing or hunting or fishing or any other "entertainment" venture you embark on. Main difference is that this "hobby" actually leaves you with a bona fide end product that is win win all the way.

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My Biodiesel Reactor/Processor

Depending on your situation, it could be that hard. If I stored methanol around my place and the neighbours got wind of it, it could be a problem. Apartment people cannot either. On a farm, I could do stuff like that and get away with it since no one can see me. If the neighbours see a fuel tank outside ans see me roll a barrel of methanol in the shed, it could be a problem under some safety code or neighbourhood covenant.

The difference would be that in the case of golf or hunting (hunting brings meat tho) I could choose not to participate in it this week because of some other commitments. In this case, if I didn't make a batch for 3 weeks, I'd have no fuel. So it becomes a "must do" instead of something that is done when I am bored or just want something different to play with. It no longer is a hobby. Just as right now, it would be fun for me to be a porno actor. What's not to like? Get paid to screw. However, when it is my job to get it up several times a day and make several money shots, you bet the fun would go out of it and it would become a chore after a while.

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99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

The methanol issue is a very good one for those (like you and me) who cannot have such stuff sitting around without a fire marshall breathing down our necks.

One way around this that I'm currently working on, is getting a chem supplier to blend anhydrous potassium methoxide. Instead of labels that read "Methoxide" it'll have a generic chem label and be looked at as more of a test-chem than a "fuel" or "meth-lab" supply.

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"If you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there". Lewis Carrol

You could do a "Don't Ask, Don't tell" and see what happens. I mean, if you have an SUV, you could back it into the garage and no one will know if you are having methanol or furniture. Now, if you have a spill, you're fawked.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

I'm just looking for a mentor to help me get my stuff together and going...and help me with first batch or two....enough that I know I am doing it right.....

will build a dedicated shed to do this...something with lots of ventilation.

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1983 300D W123
1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper
1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel
1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified)
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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

I love going to the chem store and buying methanol, and the first thing anyone things of up here in white trash Spokane is, methamphetamine, cool I say, just making some homebrew. Anyhow, all of these issues point to one thing, grease baby, grease. Forget biodiesel, the whole thing is a racket, methanol is too expensive, and soyoil is a joke, its all bioengineered junk that requires petrochems for fertilizer and herbicide. So get yourself an old diesel that if you destroy it it dont matter and burn grease with a greasecar, greasel kit or a do it yourselfer. Anyhow, love to all and dont buy no stinkin petro from the stinkin mafia. Thekid

Everyone wants BD, but you will understand why some of us want to buy it instead of make it when you are staring into a stinky vat of methanol mixed with lye, whose fumes eat brain tissue and inner organs, will blind you permanently if it gets in your eyes, and if it sparks.....one of the most flammable substances you are likely to come across.
Dangerous stuff for the novice. You better know what you are getting involved in, and the risks associated.
Can it be made safely? Sure. Should it be done in backyards? Not without the proper safety equiptment. You could run into far greater problems than the neighbors...
Manufacturing fuel is not really comparable to "entertainment" imho, nothing to be taken lightly.
Is your methonal dino produced? Probably, so your BD is 20% petroleum. And that nasty little lye factor...
If you are in it for the money alone, eventually you will save some, after all the equiptment has paid for itself. If you bought all the right gear, thats gonna be awhile. If it is environmental concerns you have...
And what are you going to do with all that glycerin?

For the shadetree mechanic who likes to tinker, I think straight veg wins.

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Im changing my user name to the greasykid, cause I agree with all that you said he 100%. Straight veg wins on the following points:

cheaper
not dangerous
no chemicals
not as much time to make fuel

one risk

could fry your IP
could coke your engine

Add: Fumes can kill you (very toxic)

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1983 300D - parts car

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"If you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there". Lewis Carrol

are you sure the fumes could kill you, or is that just overkill, so to speak
the kid