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Willie Nelson is now Marketing BioDiesel
Saw this a bit go.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050114/ap_en_mu/willie_nelson_biodiesel_4 The stuff is called BioWillie Got to get a hat. |
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10+ years ago he was big into the hemp fuel thing. He and the Gov of Kentucky at the time (his name escapes me) were pushing a Mercedes wagon that ran on hemp fuel.
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Yeah, he apparently works with a big huge truck stop in Texas to sell biodiesel, and has been promoting it for a while. If I recall correctly, he has a shiny silver CDI he runs on biodiesel.
I'm not really into his style of music, but he's a good guy, and I'm glad he's a part of the whole thing. His name has already gotten fuel into places it wouldn't have so quickly, and hopefully he keeps doing the same. I'd buy a hat. peace, sam
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I'm pro-Willie and I vote
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B.S. Alert!
Did y'all notice the obligatory petro industry propaganda comment?
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I should imagine that biodiesel is a concern for the Petroleum Marketers Association of America
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Myth: Biodiesel doesn't perform well in cold weather. Fact: Biodiesel will gel in very cold temperatures, just as the common #2 diesel does. Although pure biodiesel has a higher cloud point than #2 diesel fuel, typical blends of 20% biodiesel are managed with the same fuel management techniques as #2 diesel. Blends of 5% biodiesel and less have virtually no impact on cold flow. Why should it be a concern right now? Maybe way in the future, it might be. Except for the oddball here and there, Biodiesel has no real appeal when it costs more than regular diesel and is way harder to get than regular diesel which is already a challenge to get. In 2003, they sold 25 million gallons. That is not even the proverbial drop in the bucket considering that besides trucks, diesel is not really a popular thing here like it is in Europe. If you come down to Madison and look at the gas stations beside truck stops, you would see that 20:1 is about the ratio of gas pumps to diesel. Now, as eco-crazy as Madison is, the nearest biodiesel station is in Lake Geneva, 80 miles away, why should they even be worried? It will take years and years of investment for the biodiesel to take hold. Hell, that shop doesn't even know of any incentive programs for biodiesel yet and they sell the stuff. Also, if biodiesel costs more than regular diesel, it will be a hard sell for the consumer. The question would be "Why should I pay more for a product that is supposedly the same as what I am used to?". Even on performance cars, people are trying to see if they can run higher compressions without going to higher octane fuel to save an average of $0.25. Regular diesel costs about $0.20 more than premium so for me to recoup my investment, you have to show me some real gains. Money talks. If I had bought a regular gasser, I'd oay about $0.40 less a gal that regular diesel and now you want them to pay more but don't see an immediate benifit? For many people, they are all for the environment and all that until they see the bill.
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And around on these forums, yes, you see us 'oddballs' using it, but the people doing most of the buying right now are industrial and commercial users. Agriculture uses a large portion of the biodiesel made. Consumer pump users are a very small part of the sales, right now. Quote:
And there is a 'today' benefit. Without biodiesel, my car nails when cold. With biodiesel, it does not. Its not magic, its a better fuel. I see people throwing whole bottles of 7$ power service into their tanks, but biodiesel is the cheapest 'additive' you can get. Its unfortunate that your biodiesel pump isn't aware of the changes. They might be on the last leg of distribution, and the tax incentives might affect their distributer higher up the chain, meaning its not as big of a deal for them to know about. peace, sam
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Sam you are correct that the cost is down the road. However, people are generally concerned about what is now. They don't care that using this magic product will make their car last 10 years more. The question they have is what is it going to cost me today. I have known co-workers that cheered with the suggestion that their profit sharing is going up but cry when they are being cut because they are "dead weight". The future cost is something that is hard to sell. Look at the Y2K issue. They knew of it way back when. However, the cost of adding the extra 2 digits was prohibitive so they figured that someone else will fix it. Back to 1990. Countdown 10 years till the world ends. Nada. Zip. Why? As CIO, if I fix it in 1990, my department costs go up today. Tomorrow, I might be working elsewhere. 1995. Yes, it is a problem and if we need to hire contract programmers to fix the issue at the last minute it will cost more. Best fix it now by increasing the staff a little more. Sounds good but it didn't work out that way. When did they fix it? At the proverbial last minute because the CIO knew he was going to stay on till the problem was solved, at least.
The arguement is that in 10 years I might be dead, moved on, etc, etc. I want to see savings today. Let tomorrow take care of itself. Maybe they will have come up with something to fix the issue tomorrow but today I need to feed myself and my family.
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Yes, I agree, Aklim.. Its very hard to convince people of things that will affect their future. Even some of the most time-tested things like IRAs are hard to convince people to contribute to.
But I'm just doing my part, Aklim. Education is my business and my hobby, and I do what I can. Maybe one day I'll have even YOU burnin' the bean. In the end I hope we can help a lot more people feed a lot more families (my extended family has quite a few farmers, none of whom are doing well at all), by whatever means necessary. peace, sam
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Well, Aklim, I'll do what I can.
80 miles is a long way to drive for fuel, and would negate a lot of the environmental benefits anyway, so I understand your reluctance. Hopefully by this time next year there will be a closer pump, and in the next few months prices should be able to approach your range. peace, Sam
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$1.79 a gallon average?
Whoever came up with those numbers must be smoking the same brand as Mr. Nelson.
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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke 99 E300 Turbodiesel 91 Vette with 383 motor 05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI 06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI 03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red 03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow 04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler 11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow |
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"Rust Never Sleeps" Meets "On The Road Again" at biodiesel pumps on Maui. |
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I emailed the company and asked about BioWillie schwag.
What I want is a hat that says, "I <heart> BioWillie" in big bold letters. peace, sam
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"That f***in' biodiesel is makin' me hungry." 1982 300TD Astral Silver w/ 250k (BIO BNZ) 2001 Aprilia SR50 Corsa Red w/ 5.5k (>100 MPG) |
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