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83-240D 02-15-2005 11:01 AM

biodiesel lecture - discussion-tonite
 
sorry for the late posting
its tonite feb 15
gateway tech college kenosha wi
rm 115
7 pm

lecture to include geo political aspects of dino and bio.

blondie has gone here for a little work. greasecar kit coming in the mial soon.

whunter 02-15-2005 12:02 PM

Blast it...
 
Wish you got this up sooner... :(
We would have come up last night.
Far to late now for us to make it. :(

Can you video tape it and make me a copy??? :)

aklim 02-15-2005 12:32 PM

If they had any technical handouts, could you make them advailable?

phantoms 02-15-2005 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter
Can you video tape it and make me a copy??? :)

Make me one too. :D

I'll pay for the tape and shipping.

83-240D 02-16-2005 07:15 PM

sorry guys
 
i didn't find out until thurs. and then friday i spent the night and next two days in bed with this wonderful bronchitis/coff/hack/sneeze/snot thing going around. still coffin up hair balls.

it wasn't all bio. it was a well prepared slide show by a fella named eckardt if i remember correctly and it outlined the use of different forms of energy used in this power using country of ours. waaaay too much stuff to remember but the big day is coming in the next 10 years he says. part of the reason for an accelerated decline is the different drilling techniques we have today. not just vertical but horizontal and pressure. the oil from shale and sand is not included. it would take almost as much energy to get the oil out of sand and shale as it would produce.

there was a scientist with shell who, in 1956, said we would be out of oil in 1970. he was scoffed at by his peers. when did we run out, 1973?

i remember bp said 2003 and has now backed off that but won't speculate, the nsgs says another 40 years. but heck if you were the gov would you alert everyone?

he mentioned bio fron ethanol. we would have to have 340 million acres planted to get bio d and e85 from the land. this would also cause some of the 3rd world countries that we export food to to have a sudden die off of hungry people and there would be a time of chaos and war. as a start he is planting his land up north(hey) with philverts and hybris hazel nut bushes/trees to be abloe to extract his own fuel is necessary.

since we do consume 25 percent of the worlds fuel we are now competing with china who wants to push their economy big time. they have a new exclusive deal with venezuela taking 100% of their crude. so much for the marshal plan and our influence into the world.

in 1979 jimmy carter signed a bill that gives the u.s. pres. the power to go into foreign countries if there is a chance that 'merika will lose any fuel being provided. this includes canada where we get about 15% of our natural gas which is 50% of what they produce. this is the way geo w can justify our little side trip into democray into iraq.

saudi has 25% of the worlds oil, iraq 11, kuwait 9, uae 12 and iran 10. saudi is a huge debtor nation with all the defense stuff they buy and the number of family members who have to be paid for each transaction. kuwait is into our debt for the 1990 thing so that leaves our friends in iran.(what explosion? did you hear thet on the news today?) fear of osama is that with one nuke he can shut off saudi and the oil then goes to 150 bucks a barrel and 5 bucks a gallon.

wish i could remember more. if there is another one, and there might be one next month, i will get the word out sooner.

TedG 02-16-2005 09:28 PM

Large chunks of sky are falling to the ground, and huge cracks are opening up in the Earth's surface!

Details at eleven...

"The USA is the biggest energy hog of all nations" and other such comments always ignore the fact that we also produce way more goods (and good singular) than any other nation.

My fuel system has enough problems with American #2D. I won't be courting disaster with vegetable oil.

When we "run out" of oil (again!) I won't be distilling hazelnuts. I'll wait for that energy "crisis" to subside, again.

whunter 02-17-2005 01:48 AM

Hello and welcome TedG
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TedG
My fuel system has enough problems with American #2D. I won't be courting disaster with vegetable oil.

I have used vegetable oil = canola oil, new hydraulic oil, filtered used transmission fluid and power steering fluid in my fuel tank.
Why?
It was free, and I knew it would run as well or better than the current diesel fuel on the local market.
Cost = the time to pump the tank full.
Engine ran lower noise with vegetable oil = canola oil, new hydraulic oil, filtered used transmission fluid and power steering fluid, and had better power than pure diesel fuel.
IMO, Better quality here with any of these right now, vegetable oil = canola oil, new hydraulic oil, filtered used transmission fluid and power steering fluid.

Plantman 02-17-2005 08:53 AM

whunter,

do a search on gas prices and you'll see we have discussed this on the open discussion forum at length.

Pretty intense reading if you have the time.

Not from the OD only, but there are numerous books on the subject.

whunter 02-17-2005 01:13 PM

Request link
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Plantman
whunter,
do a search on gas prices and you'll see we have discussed this on the open discussion forum at length.
Pretty intense reading if you have the time.
Not from the OD only, but there are numerous books on the subject.

As you know, I do not go there under normal conditions.
If you could drop the topic link here, I would like to look at it.
:EDIT: I searched and found results of 85 threads, I don't know which ones you refer to?
Thank you.
whunter

Californian 02-17-2005 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter
new hydraulic oil, filtered used transmission fluid and power steering fluid.

These two things seems to be either more expensive or not readily available.

whunter 02-17-2005 03:01 PM

Transmission
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Californian
These two things seems to be either more expensive or not readily available.

rebuilders must pay to recycle this, offer to take it and make a friend.

Plantman 02-17-2005 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter
As you know, I do not go there under normal conditions.
If you could drop the topic link here, I would like to look at it.
:EDIT: I searched and found results of 85 threads, I don't know which ones you refer to?
Thank you.
whunter

Here it is:

Not really about biodiesel per se, but does dea; with fuel shortages.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=115119


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