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Old 03-24-2005, 02:59 PM
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This is a good point. Also, there is other more promising technologies on the site, such as fuelless engines and cold fusion. I too, wish the solution to our energy woes were as simple as a few spoonfuls of acetone. Unfortunately, reality is not flexible.
Hey now, I did a paper on cold fusion for a chemistry class once upon a time. There is something to that, nobody is just quite sure what exactly happened. Pons and Fleischmann were just crucified by a bunch of po'd physicists.

As far as mileage on ethanol, I don't know how to explain the results in my case, but I did indeed see better mileage. I religiously keep spreadsheets of fuel mileage, maintenance, etc., and it averaged about 1-1.5 mpg better on ethanol blends.

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Old 03-24-2005, 03:01 PM
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I read somewhere that somebody could do cold fusion with skippy peanut butter.
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Ok, I've taken the bait. Yesterday, I added 3 oz. of acetone to 14 gallons of diesel. My fuel mileage yesterday was 406 miles/13.98 gallons=29.1 mpg. I go through $250 worth of diesel in a month, so a 20% reduction saves me $50. Even 10% saves me $25.

I now have over 100 miles since and this is what I have to report:

1) Engine seems to be a bit smoother at idle, maybe just me.
2) Fuel gauge doesn't seem to be moving as fast, hmmm.
3) Transmission doesn't flare as bad on the 2/3 shift anymore.
4) Steering seems to be tighter.
5) Radio reception is better.
6) Front suspension rattle is gone.
7) Rear passenger window works now.
8) Driver's seat seems firmer.
9) Glow plugs aren't needed anymore, yahoo!
10) The oil cooler lines have stopped leaking!
11) I can go 85 mph at the same rpm as I was going at 60.
12) A hottie in a 600SL came up to me at a light and said the exhaust smells like a rose petal brushed with honey on a spring day. She wanted to know if I could make her car smell like that and would I follow her to her place where her twin sister, who loves diesel Mercedes, is a massuese and...


...then I woke up.

So far, I haven't noticed any improvements. It'll be Tuesday or so before I fill up again. I've never gotten over 30 mpg in this car, but if I do, I'll try another tankful. If not, oh well.


I will report to the forum at my earliest opportunity.

Note: when adding acetone, DO NOT use the little cups that come with Nyquil - they last about a nanosecond when filled with acetone.
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Ok, I've taken the bait. Yesterday, I added 3 oz. of acetone to 14 gallons of diesel. My fuel mileage yesterday was 406 miles/13.98 gallons=29.1 mpg. I go through $250 worth of diesel in a month, so a 20% reduction saves me $50. Even 10% saves me $25.

I now have over 100 miles since and this is what I have to report:

1) Engine seems to be a bit smoother at idle, maybe just me.
2) Fuel gauge doesn't seem to be moving as fast, hmmm.
3) Transmission doesn't flare as bad on the 2/3 shift anymore.
4) Steering seems to be tighter.
5) Radio reception is better.
6) Front suspension rattle is gone.
7) Rear passenger window works now.
8) Driver's seat seems firmer.
9) Glow plugs aren't needed anymore, yahoo!
10) The oil cooler lines have stopped leaking!
11) I can go 85 mph at the same rpm as I was going at 60.
12) A hottie in a 600SL came up to me at a light and said the exhaust smells like a rose petal brushed with honey on a spring day. She wanted to know if I could make her car smell like that and would I follow her to her place where her twin sister, who loves diesel Mercedes, is a massuese and...


...then I woke up.

So far, I haven't noticed any improvements. It'll be Tuesday or so before I fill up again. I've never gotten over 30 mpg in this car, but if I do, I'll try another tankful. If not, oh well.


I will report to the forum at my earliest opportunity.

Note: when adding acetone, DO NOT use the little cups that come with Nyquil - they last about a nanosecond when filled with acetone.
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Old 03-25-2005, 08:39 AM
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12) A hottie in a 600SL came up to me at a light and said the exhaust smells like a rose petal brushed with honey on a spring day. She wanted to know if I could make her car smell like that and would I follow her to her place where her twin sister, who loves diesel Mercedes, is a massuese and...
What light and what was her name and address?
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Tenknot, great post. The only things you may have missed are just an oversight at this point. The tread depth keeps getting deeper and deeper until your car will not move. Right now you rev 60 to do 80 tomorrow perhaps rev 40 to do 80 .I used ten ounces in three tankfuls now cannot even drive the car as it is totally full of wild women. This has eliminated the tire problem though. The second tank with additive was not too bad but watch out for the third.
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tenknots, if I smear some acetone on the foredeck of my Sunfish, do you think it will make it go really fast? Will I get 20% more distance from a puff of wind, or will it just melt a hole in it?
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tenknots, if I smear some acetone on the foredeck of my Sunfish, do you think it will make it go really fast? Will I get 20% more distance from a puff of wind, or will it just melt a hole in it?
No Pete, it doesn't work with sailboats. You need to sprinkle some acetone on your hood star. The star will be pulled throught the wind and you will get better fuel economy from the SD. Should get you up to about 42 mpg. Engine will sound better as well.
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I have read many threads on this forum that lead me to believe that there were many smart people here. From what i have read on this one it changes my opinion some, it appears that most replies were done by school kids trying to write a report on something that they only read 1/10 of information available. has any one actualy read the complete story? KHB1
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Pie in the sky?

Over the years 100s of ideals to increase milage have been postulated. The failure rate seems to be almost 100%. What really has me going on this one is it's almost april the first and pretty well will be when the results are posted. I believe a percentage of us keep an open mind and personally hope there is a signifigant upside. After driving and watching for forty five years my beliefs at present are synthetic oil improves milage to some degree and a spark enhancing device promoted years ago still has a home on one of my old gas mercedes. But time will tell even if I am somewhat cynical at present. Oh yes spending the time to keep an engine tuned up properly seems to have always been of benifit. Not snake oil but takes effort and will maximize milage.
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Now thats a inteligent post!!KHB1
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Old 03-27-2005, 09:20 PM
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Anyone thought of what the guy writing the claim had to gain by writing and posting this? Will he sell you acetone? Do you have to buy something from him in order for this to work? Remember bumblebees aren't supposed to be able to fly, the "engineers" at NASA thought the "o" rings would be fine, and it's in our nature to doubt things. I highly doubt two tanks fulls of diesel or gasoline with the recommended amount of acetone added will harm anyones internal engine parts. I'm gonna try it
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:47 AM
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It takes more effort than imagined to do accurate consumption tests. There is a guy with a computorized fuel unit on his new 2005 jetta gas. His car has 3k miles and gives him a reading of how many miles left in tank. Last post he claimed a 20% more indication with the acetone. Of course his indication must be derived from fuel flow extrapolated for the remaining fuel in tank. . Watch for his posts or review on their posting site. Also one guy did a test of four 100 mile trips. Two without the acetone and two with. Lost a little under one mpg. His test method was not totally scientific but perhaps supeior to what I would run as all his driving was done specifically for the test. His vehicle was honda accura or accord I believe. There is enough activity to gain some perspective in the next few days. Like all these things as are entertaining to follow and always a possibility of an upside. I have a feeling this thread is going to hit a few hundred posts before this is over.

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I'm at nearly 400 miles today. I will fill up on the way home today and report tomorrow.

So far, there have been no negative side effects (aside from NOT having the hottie pull up next to me). No catastrophic seal failures, no IP noises. The only problem was a bit of acetone spilled on the paint.

My test may not be scientific, but it is fairly controlled. I'll park the car at the exact location at the same fuel station, and fill it the same way. The weather has been very similar - no cooler than 40, no warmer than 55. Road conditions haven't changed. My mileage varies by less than 1 MPG unless I use the car differently - which I haven't this time.

I want this to work, it would be great, but my common sense self says that it's too easy. "Add a couple ounces of this Mystery Fluid and increase your economy by 20%!" Hmmm.

Don't you think that STP or Slick 50 or Bob's Medicated Salves and Fuel Enhancers would be all over this if it worked? Somebody could make billions.

Well, if it increases mileage, I'll try it again in 4 more days. If it decreases it (doubtful) I won't. If there is no change, I'll save the acetone for cleaning fiberglass.

Pete, smearing the acetone on your foredeck will make your Sunfish faster since it will be lighter by the amount of resin the acetone removed. But seriously, I can sell you some sailboat fuel at a deep discount...
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I don't have a sailboat yet but If I buy it now, I could store it till I get a sailboat. By the time I get one, the fuel would have gone up significantly. The Sailboat fuel will keep, right? How much? Do you sell it by the gallon or by the pound? Should we ahve a Group Purchase?

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