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Old 01-04-2006, 09:55 PM
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If I park a car for the winter, I leave as little fuel as possible so that when I start it up, I go to the gas station and fill up in spring.
This is generally a bad idea, if you leave the car idle for a few months the best storage condition for the fuel tank is to be as full as practicable. The reason for this is that the moisture in the air in the tank will condense as the tank cools down. If temperatures rise and fall periodically, air will flow into and out of the tank, bringing higher moisture content air into the tank each cycle. When temperatures are above freezing, this can result in significant water buildup in the tank over time(

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Old 05-11-2006, 12:17 PM
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Myth Busted!!

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Yes ConnClark, I saw that show last night. They proved these things don't work, (at least the ones they tested). My favorite part was about the SDL or SD running or WVO. They proved that COST/MILE was much lower using the WVO. Only problem now is every Tom, Dick, and Harry will be buying old MB diesels and running them on WVO. The gov will find out about it and road taxes will be added to VO and the price of a hamburger will triple. Oh well, it was good while it lasted.
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aaaah, mythbusters. man i miss my cable.
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Mythbusters? TV told us so it must be true? Sorry to intrude on your little thread here but I was passing and just wanted to say something about the mainstream media. No story goes into print or on air of over TV unless it conforms to the principles of corporate interest via the power of the editor to select and veto. This is why you will never see a story about how Burger king uses cow udders in it's meat paddies, never see a story about the very harmful effects of exhaust emissions, nor a story about how the acids in *Coke* will rot out your teeth if you drink too much of it. No TV presenter arrives at his or her station unless they are a proven boot-licker journalist willing to put aside all truth and principles in favor of their job. In a word, they are corrupt, much more so than the police or politicians are corrupt. If you doubt what I say have a look around because there are tens of thousands of journos who are out in the cold because they tried to tell the truth and were at odds with the editors they worked for. In journalism you get one chance, one warning, you conform and accept the editor's decision or you are fired, I am one of those who got fired/blacklisted.

A handful of people own all of the mass media in the western world now and it is definitely not in their interest to tell little people like you and I the truth about anything. TV is a system of consumer control it appears, it's sole purpose is to empty our wallet and keep us happy and distracted in the process.

As an interesting example... I now work in real estate sales, residential properties. In my city prices have been falling steadily over the last year and a half, they have fallen about 7% on average but with the high-end market showing a little improvement and up around 2%. I have never seen this important fact in the papers though, the papers tell me all is rosy now and after a slight slump prices are on the upturn. The papers are saying this to inspire consumer confidence and generate profits for all concerned. And guess what? I agree with them this time and I accept the lie as a truth, because I can't feed my family any other way.
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Old 05-12-2006, 05:16 PM
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Mythbusters? TV told us so it must be true? Sorry to intrude on your little thread here but I was passing and just wanted to say something about the mainstream media. No story goes into print or on air of over TV unless it conforms to the principles of corporate interest via the power of the editor to select and veto. This is why you will never see a story about how Burger king uses cow udders in it's meat paddies, never see a story about the very harmful effects of exhaust emissions, nor a story about how the acids in *Coke* will rot out your teeth if you drink too much of it. No TV presenter arrives at his or her station unless they are a proven boot-licker journalist willing to put aside all truth and principles in favor of their job. In a word, they are corrupt, much more so than the police or politicians are corrupt. If you doubt what I say have a look around because there are tens of thousands of journos who are out in the cold because they tried to tell the truth and were at odds with the editors they worked for. In journalism you get one chance, one warning, you conform and accept the editor's decision or you are fired, I am one of those who got fired/blacklisted.

A handful of people own all of the mass media in the western world now and it is definitely not in their interest to tell little people like you and I the truth about anything. TV is a system of consumer control it appears, it's sole purpose is to empty our wallet and keep us happy and distracted in the process.

As an interesting example... I now work in real estate sales, residential properties. In my city prices have been falling steadily over the last year and a half, they have fallen about 7% on average but with the high-end market showing a little improvement and up around 2%. I have never seen this important fact in the papers though, the papers tell me all is rosy now and after a slight slump prices are on the upturn. The papers are saying this to inspire consumer confidence and generate profits for all concerned. And guess what? I agree with them this time and I accept the lie as a truth, because I can't feed my family any other way.
Wow, that's a mouthful. So what you are really saying is acetone improves mileage despite evidence to the contrary? Or that Mercedes diesels really can't burn SVO?
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Old 05-12-2006, 05:26 PM
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Holy conspiracy theories, bagman. You're implying EVERYONE is in on this.

MANY producers and distributors of acetone are chemical companies that are also involved in producing gasoline (or the additives that go in it such as MMT, MTBE, etc). They'd LOVE to see a boost in their acetone sales. If MythBusters said adding acetone IMPROVED milage (when it clearly does NOT), word would get around and sales of acetone would skyrocket! If you're going to start conspiracy theories at least make more logical ones
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Since when were the Mythbusters mainstream???
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Old 05-12-2006, 07:01 PM
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Man these snake oil theories get old. But with high priced fuel we have got to put up with the snake oil salesmen and the suckers buying it.

As PT Barnum once said "Their is a sucker born every minute"
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I remember a bit the late comedian Bill Hicks did about the mass media coddling America into a state of stupor. It's one of those overt conspiracies. Mr and Mrs front porch really don't care about being controlled as long as they can watch their American Idol on the TV machine.
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:38 PM
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Acetone does what?

I'm dumping in a quart today!
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Old 05-13-2006, 01:33 PM
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Moth balls were used in WWII also to do the same thing.
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They also did the mothball thing on an episode of Mythbusters. They determined that they did do something, IIRC.
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:04 AM
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Here are the results of my testing with Acetone from 11-1-06 through 3-9-07.

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21.99 Winter Diesel (No Additives) 13.186 Gallons of fuel
22.46 Winter Diesel (Added 2.5oz Acetone) 13.804 Gallons of fuel
21.59 Winter Diesel (Added 2.5oz Acetone) 10.327 Gallons of fuel
20.13 Winter Diesel (Added 2.0oz Acetone) 11.236 Gallons of fuel
20.96 Winter Diesel (Added 1.5oz Acetone) 12.932 Gallons of fuel
19.28 Winter Diesel (Added 1.5oz Acetone) 10.216 Gallons of fuel
20.83 Winter Diesel (Added 0.75oz Acetone) 12.049 Gallons of fuel
23.28 #2 Diesel (No Additives) 13.104 Gallons of fuel
23.52 #2 Diesel (No Additives) 11.439 Gallons of fuel

It's a wash. IF it did anything, it was small enough to be absorbed into the normal MPG variance between tanks. The best way to increase MPG is to not use winter diesel!

I don't have any leaks and the hoses have not noticeably softened or hardened since the testing began.
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You must have a leak. You're clearly losing 15-35% of your diesel on the ground!

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