I've spent virtually NO time and money on my single tank system and it works just fine.

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when the day comes when i have 9 cars at my disposal, maybe i'll try that too.

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84 300td 223k modified greasel conversion (sold)
92 300d 2.5 185k with frybrid kit

I believe that the point of this thread was that original poster requested information and experience in converting to WVO so, I provided him my experiences with STRAIGHT oil.

FWIW, I don't run a RUG blend. If I do blend (in really cold weather) I run a B20 concentration of biodiesel in the WVO or dino diesel...only once in the last 9 months have I ever run RUG and that was when I thought I was having cloud point problems but wasn't...it was simply a clogged filter from guck getting cleaned out of the fuel tank. I do heat my fuel before it gets to the IP but only at cold start-up or, if I'm sitting idling in traffic for a long time where there's little heat being generated by the engine.

I'm not pulling this out of my "you-know-what" either. I've put thermocouples on the injection lines and measured temps in the 150°-160°F region during highway operation. And, the injector bodies reach approximately 200° to 210°F at this time as well. My theory is that, during intermediate power level operation, the fuel volume moving through those delivery lines is low enough that it has sufficient time to be heated to a much higher temp than you can possibly achieve with a supplemental heater. However, I am considering designing a fuel heater that will be integrated into the upper radiator hose. Long idle times with the electric fuel heater, cabin heater blower (or a/c) and headlights all running overtax the ability of the alternator to keep up with the demand. Capturing some energy from the coolant is a good idea but, I just don't want to run coolant hoses all the way back to the fuel tank.

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It would seem that if you resided in a warm place, CA, TX or FLA, etc. then a coolant heater and supplemental electric heater mounted inline under the hood would be all you need. Install the coolant heater before the fuel filter and the electric heater right before the IP fuel inlet. This would allow a preheat cycle on the electric heater prior to startup to heat the WVO that will enter the IP immediately. Running the electric heater until the coolant heater became operational, it could then be shutdown or used supplementally in traffic, idling, etc. Done this way the cold WVO startup would be very brief and the electric unit would bring the IP up to temp quickly. Just a thought. RT

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On the previous page there was a lot of talk about coking. What exactly is coking? Are there any photos of what it looks like? I just located someone who can provide me with WVO and I will probably run a one tank system with a fuel line heater.

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84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012

Some wood finishes are made from veg oil, tung oil would be one example. Some veg oils can turn to a form of epoxy ( or like epoxy ) under some conditions. You can imagine how well your rings and valves would work with epoxy on them.

Run some veg oil searches for iodine, combustion chamber shape, flat and spherical. Information on coking is easy to find.

Maybe you are not aware that pump diesel sometimes has gasoline mixed in with it.

Who gave you the power to dictate what this thread is about? The original post did NOT mention two tanks. I admit that is a reasonable assumption since that is what most kit makers want to sell you, but not all of them.

Have you actually studied emissions like you are denouncing or is that another assumption on your part? There are some pretty nasty components emitted from the tailpipes of veggie cars. Gasoline doesn't produce the soot diesel does.

You are saying that with that mix the car is faster? Is that quartermile or top speed? How did you verify that?

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03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Anyone who is interested in a WVO systems please hold off because I have made a very cool setup that has automatic everything.

My system filters it right from the grease dumpster to the engine. No 5 gallon buckets or other filtering to do outside of the car.

Also the system I have made does all of its own purging and switches to WVO when the grease reaches operating temperature.

I have taken pictures of the whole installation and documented the prices and location of the parts.

My system is way better than anyone I have seen available commercially or on the internet.

The best part is to reproduce my system it will only cost around $350.00, because you won’t have any trial and error fees like I did.

Give me 1 month to finish the website I made for it and I will post a link to it.

Jimmy are you the same JimmyJoe that posts over at the Maui Biodiesel site? The same JimmyJoe that has expressed an interest in the commercial value of veg oil conversions? Are you afraid that someone like me who wants to save people money is a threat to your future possible profits? If you are worried about someone cutting into your profits, worry about taxes. When enough profiteers, like I now suspect you hope to be, get involved in veg-oil it will be taxed just like any motor fuel. Many of the statutes mention motor fuel and all they have to do is classify veg oil as motor fuel and it will be taxes and regulated just like petroleum, propane, natural gas, etc. All it takes is one politician looking for a little limelight to start ranting about all of that lost revenue. They will of course bloat the numbers. Once taxes are levied and hazardous materials rules are applied this will be a whole different situation. That day will likely come.

WTF ?? This has been taken WAY over the top...

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PlantDrive Single tank WVO conversion
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1985 Ford F250 - 132K
PlantDrive Two-tank WVO conversion
15,000 veggie miles and counting...

Driving for FREE!

Twitchkitty was kind enough to add a thread over on OD if someone wants to complain about anything off topic related to him.....please take it over there before this thread gets deleted by the mods, and we lose the pertenant info in it. Its happened before and it can happen now.

I am taking nobodys side here..........................

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I have just spent the last hour going through this thread deleting stuff that was not pertinent to the thread and got pretty personal for who knows what reason.

I took the time to edit this thread (versus deleting the thread) because I'm interested in knowing too.

Tony helped lighten this thread up some and I appreciate that. I hope ever who closed it sees to leave it open.

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Thanks, I went back and edited more irrelevant BS out of my posts. Apologies for making you have to take your time to do that.

I closed it because it was headed over the cliff fast.
Now that you cleaned it up it is fine.

Thanks Jim

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I'm going to stay tuned for this one. This sounds like it'll be really hassle free.
Keep us posted.

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84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012