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Old 08-29-2006, 10:19 AM
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Also....I have not read alot in here, but do you folks ever just disassemble and clean your turbocharger rotor.....increases turbo speed, thus boost, and cleans up exhaust smoking as well as increasing power and lowering exhaust temperatures!!!
Only a very small part of the crowd here would or could correctly disassemble and reassemble a turbo. Injector cleaning and repair are treated as last ditch efforts by most. There is a full range of people here from the perfectionists to the hacks.

Aside from being damaging to your engine and to the environment, burning used motor oil doesn't work very well in quantities that would save any substantial amount of money.
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:56 PM
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You can always distill it, eh? There are plans for sale on eBay for you own personal motor oil cracking unit, just boil and condense.

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Old 08-29-2006, 05:58 PM
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Rebuilding the turbo will probably NOT result in you getting MORE boost as suggested by the poster. The OM617 is a wastegate design, not free floating turbo. Unless you're REALLY gunked, you're still getting full boost. However, the spool-up will certainly be slower with buildup.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned burning waste ATF. I do this with excellent results.

So, now all the "experts" can tell me how it's ruining the atmosphere and my engine!
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:07 PM
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OK, I will watch how I phraise stuff in the future!!

Gentlefolks,

I stand corrected....not more boost, but a return to as designed Turbo discharge charge air volume and pressures....wanna talk about scavenging???

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Old 08-29-2006, 06:55 PM
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Rebuilding the turbo will probably NOT result in you getting MORE boost as suggested by the poster. The OM617 is a wastegate design, not free floating turbo. Unless you're REALLY gunked, you're still getting full boost. However, the spool-up will certainly be slower with buildup.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned burning waste ATF. I do this with excellent results.

So, now all the "experts" can tell me how it's ruining the atmosphere and my engine!


He wasn't talking about boost, he was refering to spool up of the turbo vane's.

The local injection shop will tell you point blank not to run ATF through your system. These guys rebuild thousands of injectors and IP's per year and have seen ATF cause damage to both.

I only burn what my owners manual says I can burn, diesel fuel and with a Kerosene mix for really cold temps.
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Old 08-30-2006, 10:13 AM
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned burning waste ATF. I do this with excellent results.

So, now all the "experts" can tell me how it's ruining the atmosphere and my engine!
I always like to hear about this kind of experience. Are you mixing ATF or running it straight? Prefiltering? Any useful info you can give would be appreciated.
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He wasn't talking about boost, he was refering to spool up of the turbo vane's.
Oh. I guess you have some other way of communicating with him then. But since I'm limited to simply reading his written word, ".....increases torbo speed, thus boost", I made my comment based on that.


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The local injection shop will tell you point blank not to run ATF through your system. These guys rebuild thousands of injectors and IP's per year and have seen ATF cause damage to both.
Thats pretty interesting. I'd sure love to have a technical engineering discussion with that expert. Of great interest to me would be how (s)he was able to positively identify the ATF as a root cause of failure. Often, I find people rush to a casual relationship of convienience. Yes, the overhauler may have asked "do you put ATF in your fuel" to the customer, and sometimes the answer is yes. Certainly this does not establish the connection. This approach to causation could also be used to "prove" that putting the wrong type of "air" in your tires causes injector failure.

Again, I'm all about the facts. If he has some engineering data or logical chemical correlation, I'd love to learn more. But "happenstance science" will be scorned.

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I only burn what my owners manual says I can burn, diesel fuel and with a Kerosene mix for really cold temps.
You do just that. Many people live quite comfortably choosing to follow the established path and doing what they're told Others like to see if they can use their eyes, ears, and brain to reveal that the all-knowing wizard is simply a schmuck behind the curtain.

Here's a proposal; If you won't preach the wizard's greatness, then I won't try to convice you the he's really just controlled by levers and switches.



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