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Old 08-14-2005, 11:22 PM
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$2.55 Diesel going WVO!!!

I have a 85 300D with 145K and perfect bumper to bumper. I can't stomach the blatant rip off from the oil companies any more. So I looked at biodiesel and WVO. For me WVO looks easyer. I look at greasecar, greasel, and Fattywagons. Fatty has a one tank system. It has a heater that attaches to the fuel lines along with a heated filter system. I live in Tennessee so we get little cold weather. I would like some professional opinions on this one tank system.
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I have a 85 300D with 145K and perfect bumper to bumper. I can't stomach the blatant rip off from the oil companies any more. So I looked at biodiesel and WVO. For me WVO looks easyer. I look at greasecar, greasel, and Fattywagons. Fatty has a one tank system. It has a heater that attaches to the fuel lines along with a heated filter system. I live in Tennessee so we get little cold weather. I would like some professional opinions on this one tank system.
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IMHO save the money. No coversion neccissary. Use a blend. Collect Used Cooking Oil, filter and DEWATER it. Then go 80 % of this oil, 20%Reg UL. Gas and some cetane boost (kugel blend) Do a coolant fuel heat exchanger for winter. You do NOT want to get this blend as hot as folk running on non blends. Just heat it some, simular to the temps of the OEM fuel heater.
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:37 AM
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If you are looking at 2 tank systems - check out www.frybrid.com

They are a little more expensive - but Chris has re-designed the 2 tank system from the ground up and seems to have gotten it right.

There is also a great forum at his site strictly for WVO.

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If you decide to follow coachgeo's advice, you can install a heat exchanger with a valve that will allow you to vary the wvo temp depending on outside temps. That is how my blend system is set up.
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:10 AM
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IMHO save the money. No coversion neccissary. Use a blend. Collect Used Cooking Oil, filter and DEWATER it. Then go 80 % of this oil, 20%Reg UL. Gas and some cetane boost (kugel blend) Do a coolant fuel heat exchanger for winter. You do NOT want to get this blend as hot as folk running on non blends. Just heat it some, simular to the temps of the OEM fuel heater.

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Thanks for the advise. I will go with your idea. Do you run 20% Reg UL all the time? After you have filtered wvo can I add the Reg UL to the drum or do I add it direct to the fuel tank? In other words I would like to have a 40 gallons of finished product. Will the blend stay stable for 2=3 weeks?
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If you decide to follow coachgeo's advice, you can install a heat exchanger with a valve that will allow you to vary the wvo temp depending on outside temps. That is how my blend system is set up.

That is an excellent idea. Where can I get one.
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Thanks for the advise. I will go with your idea. Do you run 20% Reg UL all the time? After you have filtered wvo can I add the Reg UL to the drum or do I add it direct to the fuel tank? In other words I would like to have a 40 gallons of finished product. Will the blend stay stable for 2=3 weeks?
The best person to ask is Kugel not I. Try to ping him on the mauigreen infopop board. I am on hiatis from doing veg as my time is locked into starting my new (non veg) business

IMHO best to add in a drum. Then you need a way to mix it. Don't use an elictric drill and paint stir...... spark and gas fumes.... not good. I used an air drill and a paint stir. Temporily you could mix in a smaller contaner and shack it well.

Even better when you make your filter system in your shop or garage plumb it so you can use it to circlulate the blend to ensure it mixes well. Yes blend will stay stable if stored under same expectations of gasoline.
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I got a threaded 1/4-turn lever valve at a hardware store. Buy nipples to screw onto the ends and insert with hose clamps anywhere along the coolant line that you've installed for the exchanger.
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Old 08-15-2005, 12:17 PM
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I got a threaded 1/4-turn lever valve at a hardware store. Buy nipples to screw onto the ends and insert with hose clamps anywhere along the coolant line that you've installed for the exchanger.
make sure this is not done inline with the OEM flow of coolant. It should be a parallel circuit. you may want to either put a valve before and after exchanger orrrrrrr.. put a check valve after. This way if you turn coolant off completely hot coolant does not get pushed into the exchanger from the back side and sit there (unless you want it to)
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As usual great information from your guys. I will do as you say. Thanks for the help. I will let you know how it goes.
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