I have some Questions about WVO

I own a 1980 300SD.

What do I have to do to the WVO to use it?

What do I have to do to the Vehicle to use WVO?

Can I mix WVO and diesel?


thanks, GTB

Everything you ever needed to know.

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=447609751

I found everything I ever wanted to know on there. If you want specifics afterwards for your car hit up the section under SVO from this site.

Good luck.

Filter it.
What you do depends on the climate where you live...
Yes.
Be careful on infopop forum there are some attitudes there.
try this..
Biodiesel and WVO - SVO links thread.

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I agree. They are not as freindly on Infopop but in the end I would say most of the information is pretty darn good. yes if you live in coldweather make sure you have a good system for heating your oil up. I recommend a couple of things you usually won't find right off the bat from reading.

#1 electric in-line heater....the only way to go. But I'd do coolant as well, kinda like a back up and assist

#2 Assist pump. Extra viscosity can pull a number on your lift pump.

#3 Always have a back up system. Even if you are in Southern cal where you can make a all WVO system I sugest keeping your diesel system as well. Extra heat, Extra filters, Extra pumps. I'm a little overboard and have a pretty clean system and you can do it really simple, but I'd just put my two conservative cents out there.

Addicted -do you use the stock lift pump as well as a separate electronic pump? Is your setup posted anywhere? Thanks.

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I use an extra 5-7psi electrical pump. It was 30 or so bucks from NAPA.

I dont have a post on here but let me see if I can round up a couple pictures. The system is on my 97-F-250 and soon to come as soon as get my mercedes up and running.

I used a neo-teric kit and added a couple things here and there. It may not be as relevant but I'll post a couple of pictures.

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You have a couple of options. I would suggest a kit because its alot less of the hassle with blending. But if you do want to blend using diesel with wvo will make it a wax in your fuel tank. It happen to me, its better to use 20% gasoline or 20% kerosene. those wont make the wax in your tank. Ive been running on a gas/wvo blend myself and been running my 83SD on wvo for about 6 months. Cant say the miles since the meter is stuck.

good luck

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If there’s one thing I learned about researching WVO/SVO/BioDiesel usage, it’s that no two people will give you the same answer or have the same attitude about it. Other than maybe that it’s cleaner for the air and cheaper than Dynodiesel. I guess it’s like trying to discuss politics. Everyone has a different opinion on it. I’ve also found that many of the opinions out there may be based on what it is they are trying to sell you. “Do I really need a $750.00 duel tank conversion kit?” is not the question you ask the guy who sells them. But - That’s not to say you do or you don’t. There are two absolutes that you must know. First off, that WVO and BioDiesel are not the same thing. At all. Well, I guess they have the basis of a veggie oil to start with, but that’s it. WVO to fuel your car is something you can easily turn out in most any size batch in your back yard or garage, and BioDiesel is not. Secondly, you have to know how your WVO reacts to your (as in YOUR) climate.
I think Austin85 hit the nail(s) on the head with his simple reply. Ya filter it. 5 microns has been good enough for me for over a year of daily driving on WVO. Not a single notable issue yet. I change my filters like I should. I run a can of Diesel Purge through every 4 to 6 months, like I did throughout its DynoDiesel years (I’ve had the car since new) All’s well.
I think one of the biggest areas for discussion and differences in opinions comes from the climate issue. Bottom line is - “cold” is not a good thing. But just how cold is too cold to run WVO straight (SVO) and how your WVO reacts to the “cold” is something you’ll probably wind up figuring out yourself. I don’t think any of the folks on the internet that you’ll be researching are neighbors. They all have different climates, and thus different opinions on what works best.
Here’s my WVO saga, short (we hope) and sweet:
I knew the car (1980 300D, non-turbo) would run on the “Vegetable Oil Blend” of WVO I was collecting.
I knew that when it got cold, the oil would thick’n and that ain’t a good thing.
I knew that when it’s 70+ degrees outside, I wouldn’t have a problem with running the oil straight.
I knew that when it got colder than that, I may need to do something to make the oil thinner. (no use of tech terms here)
When the nights got cooler around here (N-TX, DFW area) I kept a little bottle of the oil in my trunk. I got it out. Swirled it around. If the oil ran off the sides of the glass quick and clear - start the car and keep running it straight. This actually seems to be fine for nights down in the 50s here.
When it showed signs of getting a bit thicker (nights in the 40s), it was time to dilute it. Some use RUG (Regular Unleaded Gasoline), I use DynoDiesel or Jet-A (I own a couple of turbine aircraft so the Jet-A is actually closer to the house than the local Texaco) Both do a fine job. Never done the RUG thing, but not going to doubt it either. Heck - I may even try that some day. Nor, am I going to knock that high tech heated fuel pump/filter rig Addicted has in his truck. He lives in Oregon. Brrrrrr. He needs a set up like that. Looks sweet to me. No need for it down here though.
I’m not sure where you’re at. But, I am sure you’ll just need to play around with it, and figure out what works best for you. Your car. Your climate. Your wallet….etc.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it all out. Just your filtered WVO, a can of diesel or RUG, and a glass jar. Knowing that your kick’n some OPEC dude in the teeth can actually make the process fun as well. The best part of it all is driving past those $2.00+ per gallon stations and giggling to yourself as you do so.

As for sites to check out. Also go to greasel.com and read all they have in the FAQ. It’s WVO usage in it’s simplest form. Just do it.

Apparently, It looks like i've struck a nere with you guys, or maybe gold?!
Hope your fingers aren't hurting too badly.

I live in central Canada, and it's winter for 6 months of the year, at worst, -35c in the day.
I do understand the whole viscosity and temprature relationship (thanks to highschool fluid dynamics)

the price of Diesel here is 93.9c a Litre here, and it's the same price as gasoine right now, so I don't really have a lot to complain about on that point. So I was purely intending on running WVO in the summer when I do most of my driving. unless of course I can devise some sort of heating system that will allow me to run it in winter effortlessly, without too much gadgetry involved. I'll keep you guys posted.

For now, I have a few questions.
I'm a guy who will use something for a totaly unintended purpose. If I took a low wattage engine block heater and affixed it to my diesel fuel tank, would it keep the liquid warm enough to substitute the Diesel for WVO? Plug it in overnight, start on like a 60/40 Diesel/WVO blend? and have subsequent heaters down the line?
Whats your guys' take on Anti-gel additive in WVO?


I'm gonna get a hold of some WVO and run some experiments, perhaps try some things that you guys havent, who knows.

thanks a BAZILLION

GTB

Got The Benz, some of us prefer to process the WVO in the garage, and not do a thing to the car to run it. The end result is much less complicated and invasive.

You've got to be kidding right?

Read the first two threads then check out the mercedes info in the DIY/FAQ threads http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/frm/f/159605551 here at infopop. Most all you need is there.

Also, do some searches on 300D too. Lot of info so Im sure you'll get a little confused. After lot of reading then fire away a bunch of questions and the friendly folk over there will be happy to help.

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I have noticed that at about 1/8 of a tank, it seems like I'm running out (probably wax floating around in the tank). I started the WVO/RUG thing and I'm happy with it. I've been doing the WVO RUG thing this past summer till around October (Here in Northern Ohio). I will startr back with the WVO RUG thing as soon as Spring returns. 50¢ a gallon for fule is MUCH better than $3.00

I change the fuel filter a little more often, but other than that I just motor along.

I think a VERY big factor here is going to be the fact that you live in a realitively cold nothern climate and your system will have to be pretty good to work and pay for itself.

Heating up WVO from -C can be a real chore...and unless you do any driving for more than about 30min at a time, the benifits of WVO won't be noticed.

Just giving you a heads up...nobody seemed to touch on the fact that you live somewhere pretty cold and this is not gonna let you get by with anything half-assed and have it work

I 2nd building your own stuff if you have the means/skills though...its way more fun and easier/cheaper to fix

No nerve struck here.
I love hearing about people running WVO. No matter how, or what it takes to do it. My hat is off to anyone reaching out to alternative fuel sources.
I’ve done it for over a year now, and I’m still experimenting with my methods. Just as important, I’m still learning from personal research as well as posts such as these. I’m always taking notes and filing pictures (thanks Addicted) from other peoples adventures in WVO. I can never stop learning, nor improving my own methods. In fact-now I'm think'n RUG.
Canada, huh? Brrrrr. This is going to be an adventure for you. Most of what I do here may never apply up there. I lived in Dawson City in the Yukon for a few years, flying freight. I recall the winter days of our piston engine aircraft having crankcase oils that were more like grease than oil. You’re in a whole different world of WVO issues up there. All I can say is good luck to you. I know it can be done. And - With the help of the great folks on this board living up north, I’m sure it will.
By the way: You've struck GOLD!!!

I suppose I am about to hijack this thread... apologies.

All this talk has got me thinking that maybe even I could pull this off.
I live in Southern California, lowest temp I see is high 30's. And
not for very many months each year.

Do the WVO folks ever have a rally or anything where folks get together ?

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