WVO Blends... - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

RSCarey · #1 07-05-2006, 09:28 PM

I brewed a few batches of WVO mixed with dino diesel and had much success. Then, after reading the posts on this forum, I took a sample and watch some evil white wax settle to the bottom of my blend which had been filtered to 5 micron. Yuck.

Next batch I made, I used 4 parts WVO to 1 part RUG. I noticed a significant power loss (even though the filters are still fine). Power Service cetane boost helped a little, but not much. Most upsetting is the fact that the motor appears to be running roughly and significantly hotter. My Rattlemobile does NOT like the taste of it. Has anyone noticed similar results using an RUG blend?

Does anyone blend using kerosene? Heating oil?

RSCarey

blueranger · #2 07-05-2006, 09:45 PM

i use straight wvo... why dont you try it just straight....

when i want to i blend with diesel.... any wax will be filtered
remember it recycles through those filters dozens and dozens of times..

if your going to use rug just use 1qt to 4gal of oil...
same with kerosene....

tenknots · #3 07-06-2006, 12:26 PM

My car works very well with 20% RUG. I'm now using between 5 and 10% RUG since it's warmer.

27,000 miles with no issues.

Blending with Kero works fine and HHO is basically diesel anyway. The Kero will have less wax in it.

dannym · #4 07-06-2006, 01:05 PM

How do you expect us to give you advice if we haven't the slightest idea where you are? Go to the USER CP and put your location and vehicle info into your profile please.
You also have people like tenknots and blueranger who are giving advice and you don't know where they are either.

Why would you blend with diesel? The whole purpose is to blend the WVO to the same viscosity as diesel. Blending with diesel won't accomplish that.
Also I've read more than once, and you would have too if you did your homework, that the additives in diesel can gel out when blended with WVO.

My Benz looved the WVO and Kero but with Kero at $5.00 a gallon that's a little too much.

I would suggest playing with your mixture. Go to 1.5 to 4 and see what happens.
you may also want to consider adding a booster fuel pump. There are instructions on how to do that on this site. Search for "Facet Pump".

Also, always use a biocide or you run the risk of fungus. Which may explain your power loss.

Danny

RSCarey · #5 07-06-2006, 09:33 PM

I have blended with diesel many times before, and have had no problems at all with the operation of the car. Everything seemed fine, but the sight of the wax in the bottom of my sample jar freaked me out.

My question was more about the heat issues caused by blending with RUG. Since I am in SoCal, gelling isn't an issue, but the motor running too hot sure is.

I always use Sea Foam Magic as an algacide when I blend.

I sourced Kerosene from the garden department at the Home Cheepo for $17 for 5 gallons. That's going to be my next move.

RSCarey

blueranger · #6 07-07-2006, 01:25 AM

i am in louisville kentucky....

you guys are waisting your time blending wvo with anything....
if your concerned about the viscosity put a 12v fuel pump near the
tank....

In the winter it may become necessary to blend... then but I dont see my
oil needing blending...

i will stick some in the referigrator and see what happens toningt

dannym · #7 07-07-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RSCarey

I have blended with diesel many times before, and have had no problems at all with the operation of the car. Everything seemed fine, but the sight of the wax in the bottom of my sample jar freaked me out.

I didn't say it WILL gel I said it CAN gel. The main point was if your blending you don't want to blend with diesel. You need something with a lower viscosity to bring the viscosity of the WVO down to that of diesel.

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Originally Posted by RSCarey

My question was more about the heat issues caused by blending with RUG. Since I am in SoCal, gelling isn't an issue, but the motor running too hot sure is.

RUG will increase combustion temperatures. If it's that bad try Kerosene.

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Originally Posted by RSCarey

I sourced Kerosene from the garden department at the Home Cheepo for $17 for 5 gallons. That's going to be my next move.

That's awesome! I'll have to check that out.

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Originally Posted by blueranger

i am in louisville kentucky...

That's great....is there a problem with you putting that in your signature?

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Originally Posted by blueranger

you guys are waisting your time blending wvo with anything....

I don't know why you keep ignoring the facts.

DAnny

pmari · #8 07-07-2006, 01:39 PM

What type of oil do you use? What type of resturant is it from? How do you filter it? How do you dewater it? Which motor are you running it through? How many miles on it?
Have you checked or changed the injectors?

20% RUG (1gal/4gal)may be to high for your motor. There are several things you can try. IMO 80/20 is the thickest you want.

Try adding a little rug to your "wax" blend (I doubt it's diesel parafins) and see what happens.

I've been blending with #2 for 2 yrs. Not one problem, NADA!

#9 07-07-2006, 11:59 PM

just blend with B100. it's the best. and cheap. try it in a jar, it will not separate or do anything funny. 80/20 is good for southern summers.
100% will give a bit of a rough startup, will it not Blueranger? unless you park in the sun and your car is black.
then again, loop that stuff back into the filter and your ride will get smoother. add heated fuel lines and it'll be even more smooth. a heat exchanger; wow! and all so inexpensive and easy to install!
I wonder, like many others, what the damage off all these cold startups is over time, not to speak of using 100% 'cold' oil...
when will Blue Ranger pull the head of his greasemobile? respect though

dannym · #10 07-08-2006, 07:04 PM

I went to Home Depot and they said they do not sell kerosene.
Is it sold under a different name maybe?
How is it packaged?

Danny

#11 07-08-2006, 10:10 PM

I just drove 500 miles on a 85/15 blend of 85 WVO, 15 RUG/B100/diesel. it was a wild mix. at the end of the ride my car stalled though. I had to clean the prefilter twice before on the way and now a new one and a new fuelfilter don't work. it died of food poisoning! I've been pumping like crazy on that little white pump thing.
luckily i was 1 mile from home when it happened and a huge cool black guy in a nissan z something brought me home...
tomorrow I'm gonna try to 'repair' it by pouring diesel in the filter and the tank.

RSCarey · #12 07-09-2006, 10:45 AM

Home Depot usually carries kerosene as a seasonal item during the winter for kerosene heaters and other outdoor appliances. I found about ten cans stacked up in a remote part of the outdoor garden section.

You have to look for it yourself. Most of the people working in there were selling shoes last week.

I also found a place in Fallbrook, CA that sells kero right out of a pump for $3.36/gallon.

RSCarey

Lostyankee · #13 07-09-2006, 11:11 AM

In Wisconsin we get K1 (2.99 this week) at Fleet Farm and Cenex.

#14 07-09-2006, 12:35 PM

ok I 'fixed' it. took off the filter, emptied it (in the tank of course) and filled it up with lubri moly. then pumped pure diesel out of a cup with that little pump for a few seconds, reattached the fuelline and started. it was coughing for a while with complimentary black smoke and then it ran as normal. now with a 40/50 diesel/wvo mix in it.
somehow the waterpump started leaking overnight though. how??