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Old 05-08-2008, 05:02 PM
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Well said. If you're putting used oil in your fuel tank then you shouldn't even be operating a motor vehicle. That would put your IQ below 70.
I fixed it for you.

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Old 05-08-2008, 05:29 PM
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Examples:
Cleaning your floor with 'eco-friendly' cleaner.. and drinking it so it doesn't go down the drain.

Feeding your dog your feeces.

Feeding your child your feeces.

Removing a 'scrubber' from a charcoal power plant and burning it for energy.

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collecting the soot from 3k miles worth of driving and sending it through your exhaust.
For those of us blessed w/ trap cats.. this does not jive.
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:38 PM
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I would have thought it to be pretty clean as well espcially out ofmy Maxima or the like. I have mixed a little into my WVO but I guess I won't do it anymore. Paul
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Old 05-08-2008, 06:02 PM
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Cleaning your floor with 'eco-friendly' cleaner.. and drinking it so it doesn't go down the drain.
You already do - after it has been FILTERED by the water treatment facility in your town

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Feeding your dog your feeces.
Dude, you don't have to feed it to him, he will find and eat it on his own. AND he'll drink out of the toilet every chance he gets too. That's one reason I've always cringed at people letting a dog lick their face. That and the fact that they lick other parts of themselves

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Feeding your child your feeces.
You do this too - it just happens to have been filtered through the roots of plants first (manure makes great fertilizer for crops )

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collecting the soot from 3k miles worth of driving and sending it through your exhaust.
After sufficient filtration, why not?

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For those of us blessed w/ trap cats.. this does not jive.
And for those of us who don't, this doesn't apply...
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:11 PM
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I fixed it for you.
Haha your "fix" just declared an enormous number of truckers and farmers as "retarded."
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Sorry you don't like my math, but I'm the one writing the check.
Which car are you writing the $7-8k check for, and why does it need a reman engine?

I'll give you $200 for the old motor.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:24 PM
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Which car are you writing the $7-8k check for, and why does it need a reman engine?

I'll give you $200 for the old motor.
My 300D started acting up last week (in NC) and I had to limp home (about 1400 miles) with high oil consumption. It feels/sounds/smells like it lost a ring, but I haven't gotten it in for a compression test yet. At 430K miles, it doesn't make sense to do anything short of a complete rebuild. Assuming it needs an engine, the core charge is about $500.
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Is it a turbo engine? I would suspect maybe the turbo is the cause of high oil consumption.

Does it run OK or is one cylinder missing? Only a broken oil ring will cause high oil consumption. I had an 190D engine that had 4 broken top compression rings, ran OK and didnt' use oil.

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My 300D started acting up last week (in NC) and I had to limp home (about 1400 miles) with high oil consumption. It feels/sounds/smells like it lost a ring, but I haven't gotten it in for a compression test yet. At 430K miles, it doesn't make sense to do anything short of a complete rebuild. Assuming it needs an engine, the core charge is about $500.

Find the root cause. Destroyed rings if the cylinder walls are good are cheap. Pull the head, get the valve seats machined, measure the ovality of the cylinders, new rings, new bearings, good for another 400k miles.

I'll still give you $200 if you don't want to bother, and even get it shipped from CO to MA.
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Find the root cause. Destroyed rings if the cylinder walls are good are cheap. Pull the head, get the valve seats machined, measure the ovality of the cylinders, new rings, new bearings, good for another 400k miles.

I'll still give you $200 if you don't want to bother, and even get it shipped from CO to MA.
I bet he'll take $600 for the engine (remember he said the company charges a core of $500?)
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Is it a turbo engine? I would suspect maybe the turbo is the cause of high oil consumption.

Does it run OK or is one cylinder missing? Only a broken oil ring will cause high oil consumption. I had an 190D engine that had 4 broken top compression rings, ran OK and didnt' use oil.

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I don't know yet, but it doesn't sound like the turbo and it has a bunch of blow-by (it actually caused a valve cover gasket leak when I drove at highway speed). It seems to have an intermittent miss, maybe a broken oil ring and/or a scored liner, but it doesn't have a completely dead cylinder. The idle dropped by about 200 rpm but it's still pretty smooth (most of the time). I'll know more when I get the compression test done. I was hoping it was just a turbo seal, but I don't think I'm that lucky.

Oh well, I can't really complain about 430K on an engine.
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I think you can still get a new engine for around $7K, IIRC.

And I don't think the owner's manual was written by lawyers.

Though, I am beginning to think they might need a suplemental booklet that reads,
Do not use waste oil,
Do not use RUG,
Do not use water,
Do not use Hawiian Punch,
Do not use maple syrup,
etc...
And maybe make it a pop-up book for those with "an IQ under 70."
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Find the root cause. Destroyed rings if the cylinder walls are good are cheap. Pull the head, get the valve seats machined, measure the ovality of the cylinders, new rings, new bearings, good for another 400k miles.

I'll still give you $200 if you don't want to bother, and even get it shipped from CO to MA.
I'll have it diagnosed before I do anything (no time this week and I'm traveling next week), but I'm not going to do anything short of a complete rebuild (or exchange) on a 400K mile engine. I would actually prefer to have the original engine rebuilt and reinstalled, but that may be more trouble than it's worth. I'll probably just end up doing an exchange with metric motors.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:02 PM
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I think you can still get a new engine for around $7K, IIRC.

And I don't think the owner's manual was written by lawyers.

Though, I am beginning to think they might need a suplemental booklet that reads,
Do not use waste oil,
Do not use RUG,
Do not use water,
Do not use Hawiian Punch,
Do not use maple syrup,
etc...
And maybe make it a pop-up book for those with "an IQ under 70."
LOL, that's good. I actually asked the local dealer a few months ago and they gave me a price of $6700 for a 617 turbo, but I believe those are also reman engines. Considering shipping, the dealer may be less expensive than metric. I need to do more research.
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I think you can still get a new engine for around $7K, IIRC.

And I don't think the owner's manual was written by lawyers.

Though, I am beginning to think they might need a suplemental booklet that reads,
Do not use waste oil,
Do not use RUG,
Do not use water,
Do not use Hawiian Punch,
Do not use maple syrup,
etc...
And maybe make it a pop-up book for those with "an IQ under 70."
The manual absolutely went past lawyers before being published. Don't be naive.

waste oil...why?
Rug...why?
water...that's ridiculous..review your chemistry
Hawaiian punch...creative, maybe a good experiment.
Maple syrup, probably plenty of BTU's in that.

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