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oldsinner111 · #**211** 10-10-2012, 11:22 AM

one thing else.I burn oil from gasoline engines only.Diesel motor has to much soot which can act as lapping compound on your pistors.

eatont9999 · #**212** 10-10-2012, 11:44 AM

You can centrifuge the oil if you want. That is probably the best method.

I cut the oil with D2 or RUG before letting it settle. Once it settles for a few days, I filter it to 1 micron with a sock filter.

Oh, all the oil I have ran has come from one of my Diesel vehicles.

greazzer · #**213** 10-10-2012, 12:24 PM

Another dumb question and since I am too much of a chicken sh@#$, can a person centrifuge a mixture of WVO or WMO with RUG? For example, 5% gasoline with either WVO or WMO. I heat my tank to about 180-190 F. I assume the gas is "watered" down enough not to pose a fire risk. I used to warm my grease to about 100+ F, add 5 gallons of super hot water, e.g., 200F, spin like crazy, and let it settle for about 1 hour. Drain off the water and do this twice before spinning the grease for 4-6 hours. My grease was heated to 180-190F while being centrifuged. I have a cone at the bottom of both 55 gallon drums so I make sure I get every drop, back and forth between the drums. Stuff comes out PERFECT.... Just wondering if I could add 5% RUG or the oil, then let it spin. The RUG is used to make sure that I never get any gelling.

oldsinner111 · #**214** 10-10-2012, 12:42 PM

My best wvo was made at below 28 degrees.That way the animal fats turn hard and float to the top,where I could skim it off.
gasoline and wmo plus heat I think would be a danger

eatont9999 · #**215** 10-10-2012, 01:31 PM

If you cut the WMO or WVO with RUG, it should thin it out enough that you don't need to pre-heat it. You will want about 15% RUG to thin it out close to the viscosity of D2. Be very careful mixing WMO and WVO. The particulate in the WMO will fall out and leave a nasty sludge that will clog filters unless you have a way to drain off the sludge before using the fuel.

greazzer · #**216** 10-10-2012, 01:38 PM

So you cannot mixed WVO with WMO ? If so, then the mixture is either:

WVO + RUG or
WMO + RUG

eatont9999 · #**217** 10-10-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by greazzer

So you cannot mixed WVO with WMO ? If so, then the mixture is either:

WVO + RUG or
WMO + RUG

You can mix WMO and WVO but there is some kind of reaction that percipitates sludge out of the WMO and WVO so you have to have a way to collect it at the bottom of a tank. Since you have a centrifuge, you might have better luck with that. Even with all that done, I still would not mix the two and put it in my tank. If I switch from one to the other, I run 1/4 tank of D2 a few times to get the WMO or WVO out before switching.

You can mix Bio-D with WMO no problem as long as your fuel lines can handle the Bio-D.

greazzer · #**218** 10-10-2012, 02:25 PM

Got it. Thanks. I might just stick to the WVO. I have about 4 years of experience with that and it was very successful. I just found a source of WMO / WTO / WBF. Thanks for the info anyways.

WMO Madness · #**219** 10-10-2012, 03:14 PM

I am new to this forum and new to owning a diesel Benz, but I am not new to running alternative fuel (WMO). I've been running wmo in my 2012 3500 Ram for 25K now and in several other older cummins, in my Ram it accel faster and burn cleaner.

The biggest concern most Benz owner has been the (pre-chamber), I am not familiar with it but I have not ran into any issues running wmo in my 1984 300D. It definitely runs smoother than regular D2.

I used to filter the oil in three stages, from 10 micron down to 1 micron. But after I mix the RUG in and let it settle, I discovered there is a large amount of heavier substance that settle. so I invested in a centrifuge to filter is down to .5 micron, this filtering process is by far the best method anyone running wmo.

treetrimmer · #**220** 10-10-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mbzkid

Large ships burn motor oil as fuel every day. I don't see your Mercedes doing any harm to the environment.

I would worry about the fuel system though. Small metal particles suspended in the oil passing through the injection pump and injectors can't be a good thing. I wonder if diesel fuel contains abrasives that can't filtered by the fuel filters as well.

Large ships are the #1 cause of Carbon Monoxide emissions into the earth's atmosphere, and the biggest current target for environmentalists right now, according to an oceanographer that I met with last week. Also, they cannot come within 200 miles of the United States unless they are burning the newest clean diesel blend, (that is the distance of our jurisdiction into international seaways). Since the open seas are not regulated, most ships simply switch tanks to clean fuel when they get 200 miles from us and then go back to the bad stuff when they leave. It's an environmental catastrophe and the oceans are deteriorating WAY ahead of even the worst predictions. And let's not even talk about the Arctic ice melt, don't want to get suicidal.

You can say that you don't give a schit, but the statement above about *not doing harm to the environment* is ignorant. If you want to add some needed lubricity to modern ULSD for older diesels, nothing is better than a clean biodiesel, (not WVO or SVO), and second place would be a very small amount of TC-W3 outboard motor oil, IMO.

eatont9999 · #**221** 10-10-2012, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treetrimmer

Large ships are the #1 cause of Carbon Monoxide emissions into the earth's atmosphere, and the biggest current target for environmentalists right now, according to an oceanographer that I met with last week. Also, they cannot come within 200 miles of the United States unless they are burning the newest clean diesel blend, (that is the distance of our jurisdiction into international seaways). Since the open seas are not regulated, most ships simply switch tanks to clean fuel when they get 200 miles from us and then go back to the bad stuff when they leave. It's an environmental catastrophe and the oceans are deteriorating WAY ahead of even the worst predictions. And let's not even talk about the Arctic ice melt, don't want to get suicidal.

You can say that you don't give a schit, but the statement above about *not doing harm to the environment* is ignorant. If you want to add some needed lubricity to modern ULSD for older diesels, nothing is better than a clean biodiesel, (not WVO or SVO), and second place would be a very small amount of TC-W3 outboard motor oil, IMO.

One theory I find hard to backup is the main source of Co2 emissions. I find it hard to backup because I can not find consistent data to support the theory. When I cannot find consistent data to support a theory, I dismiss the theory until it can be proven.

Here is an interesting site I found with some data supporting another side to the Co2 debate.
The major sources for carbon dioxide emissions « Carbon Offsets Daily

Anyway, we are getting off topic here. The bottom line is that the WMO is most likely going to be burned at some point. Be it in a furnace, boiler or ship, it is usually burnt as fuel. Doing so in your own car just gives you the advantage of saving money and helping the environment by not consuming new petroleum products.

ah-kay · #**222** 10-10-2012, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treetrimmer

Large ships are the #1 cause of Carbon Monoxide emissions into the earth's atmosphere, and the biggest current target for environmentalists right now, according to an oceanographer that I met with last week.

You can say that you don't give a schit, but the statement above about *not doing harm to the environment* is ignorant. If you want to add some needed lubricity to modern ULSD for older diesels, nothing is better than a clean biodiesel, (not WVO or SVO), and second place would be a very small amount of TC-W3 outboard motor oil, IMO.

As per Wiki, diesel engines produce minimum CO.

'The carbon monoxide content of the exhaust is minimal, therefore diesel engines are used in underground mines.[32]'

stubborn66 · #**223** 11-11-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes

No, he's grinding them

With all that metal in the oil I wonder how the engine lasts at all!!!

Zacharias · #**224** 11-11-2012, 01:04 PM

I'm not sure that this is an apples to apples discussion.

First, mines do have some ventilation. Surely no one is really suggsting CO2 emissions from diesels are so low you can run one in a closed environment.

Second I doubt you could run the size of powerplants you find in the ocean freighters in any mine, anywhere. They are beyond huge.

Third, there is some perspective missing here: the problem is how many of these behemoths are plying the world's oceans.

Fourth, as far as I can determine, ocean-going freighters don't burn diesel, they burn bunker fuel, which is less refined than either gasoline or diesel and burns much dirtier.