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Old 02-23-2007, 11:12 AM
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Lovecraft may be crap but is a good salesman just take a look at his business going up hill, nothing wrong with that, take a look at our president he still in office, if all that is said about lovecraft where true he will be out of business by now
C’mon guys let alone Lovecraft the guy just thinks he has the best system , everybody believes they have the best set up on the market, read the posts at this forum everybody burning wvo has the best foolproof set up on his Mercedes no matter who makes it, or if it is a home made kit.
I am not associated in any way or manner with Lovecraft I don’t even know the guy.
If you're not heating the VO in the tank and you think you have the best system, you're a damn fool (I actually have slightly stronger words I'd prefer to use).

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Old 02-23-2007, 11:17 AM
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Lovecraft's "system" is a complete joke for anyone with experience burning WVO. The water-blocking filter does not block water (any of them, they aren't designed for WVO). The heated part is not designed to make WVO thin enough to help it flow properly (it's a DIESEL fuel heater that heats enough to keep fuel from gelling).

Lovecraft is a snake oil salesman who is taking advantage of people's ignorance to make money. On the other hand, if you cannot educate yourself enough to steer clear, you deserve what you get.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:47 AM
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Lovecraft's "system" is a complete joke for anyone with experience burning WVO. The water-blocking filter does not block water (any of them, they aren't designed for WVO). The heated part is not designed to make WVO thin enough to help it flow properly (it's a DIESEL fuel heater that heats enough to keep fuel from gelling).

Lovecraft is a snake oil salesman who is taking advantage of people's ignorance to make money. On the other hand, if you cannot educate yourself enough to steer clear, you deserve what you get.
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That’s precisely my point the guy knows how to make money, we all know the forgiveness of the MB diesel engine burning different oils heated or unheated if you want to have a long lasting engine obviously you will heat your oil but it also will run unheated (providing it will reach the combustion chamber) for a period of time.
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:14 PM
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"You just pour vegetable oil in where the gas goes."

How ignorant, stupid, etc.
Talk about misinformation.
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:16 PM
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That’s precisely my point the guy knows how to make money, we all know the forgiveness of the MB diesel engine burning different oils heated or unheated if you want to have a long lasting engine obviously you will heat your oil but it also will run unheated (providing it will reach the combustion chamber) for a period of time.
When you take an engine that can last much longer than 500K miles and you basically reduce that lifespan to 10-20k miles, you're doing something terribly wrong.
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:33 PM
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Hello All, Im one of those poor saps with a lovecraft converted 300d. I bought it 3rd party converted. I Knew nothing about diesels or running W.V.O. and I probably deserve what I get for not researching more. This is the thing, It really runs well. I have over 7000 miles in the last 12 months all on veg oil most on W.V.O. I recently took the car to a mechanic for some routine maintenance, and he remarked on how strong the car runs.... anyway, I have fallen in love with this old car, and running w.v.o., and I want this car to last... My question is what to do now? How do I know if my injectors are coked? Will injector line heaters help? Is there anything preventative I can do short of pulling this system? Thanks in advance...
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:50 PM
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.... My question is what to do now? How do I know if my injectors are coked? ...
You will have to pull them out to check.

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....Will injector line heaters help? Is there anything preventative I can do short of pulling this system? Thanks in advance...

Short of pulling the system?? Are you in LA or SoCal? If so, line heaters would help and I would run 10% diesel on every tank. Or you can add 10% regular unleaded, Test it first to see if your car likes it. If not or the climate in your area is not warm year round, Pull it.
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Old 02-23-2007, 03:12 PM
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Hello All, Im one of those poor saps with a lovecraft converted 300d. I bought it 3rd party converted. I Knew nothing about diesels or running W.V.O. and I probably deserve what I get for not researching more. This is the thing, It really runs well. I have over 7000 miles in the last 12 months all on veg oil most on W.V.O. I recently took the car to a mechanic for some routine maintenance, and he remarked on how strong the car runs.... anyway, I have fallen in love with this old car, and running w.v.o., and I want this car to last... My question is what to do now? How do I know if my injectors are coked? Will injector line heaters help? Is there anything preventative I can do short of pulling this system? Thanks in advance...
You have to worry about your injection pump too, which is much, much more expensive to replace than an injector. Inline injector heaters won't do a darn thing for the IP, which is way all real VO systems use in-tank heaters.
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Wow...

http://www.lovecraftbiofuels.com/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=41&func=view&id=13&catid=4

I didn't know they converted VW TDIs, too. Conventional wisdom in the TDI world is that the IPs in these are far too picky about viscosity to run on VO. I can see someone being willing to gamble with an old MB diesel in a hot climate. Not me, but someone.... a nice TDI, though? Wow. I wouldn't even run a 2-tank system in mine!
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:21 PM
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I know everyone here hates lovecraft and after dealing with them I know why.... but the reality is this car is only running stronger since i got it... performance would have to lessen before the car explodes.... Im almost at 10,000 miles on this conversion, people here warn of this conversion shortening auto life to 10-20,000 miles, what are the signs/symptoms of this impending doom? Oh and I am in SoCal.
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Old 02-23-2007, 05:37 PM
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I know everyone here hates lovecraft and after dealing with them I know why.... but the reality is this car is only running stronger since i got it... performance would have to lessen before the car explodes.... Im almost at 10,000 miles on this conversion, people here warn of this conversion shortening auto life to 10-20,000 miles, what are the signs/symptoms of this impending doom? Oh and I am in SoCal.
Every time you start it cold you are gumming your rings a little bit more. If you don't de-water and filter-filter-filter your oil you will continuously plug and gum up your fuel system, including your IP.

Continue at your own risk. IMHO it is stupid to destroy such a fine machine with a lack of care in processing your fuel.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:20 PM
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Do you think running an occasional tank of commercial produced biodiesel abate some of the gumming of the rings and IP?
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:02 PM
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You have to worry about your injection pump too, which is much, much more expensive to replace than an injector. Inline injector heaters won't do a darn thing for the IP, which is way all real VO systems use in-tank heaters.
Hang on...if he is in a pretty warm climate, never under 60 degrees, he might get away (also saving the IP) by adding one of those VegTherm inline electric heaters from neoteric. They heat up pretty damn fast. I added mine to my two tank system, but just just before the injectors, but rather before the IP. If the climate is warm enough, he might get away with just that. And probably cutting the fuel a little, like adding 20-30%biodiesel to the veg oil, for example. Or kerosene.
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:08 PM
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I know everyone here hates lovecraft and after dealing with them I know why.... but the reality is this car is only running stronger since i got it... performance would have to lessen before the car explodes.... Im almost at 10,000 miles on this conversion, people here warn of this conversion shortening auto life to 10-20,000 miles, what are the signs/symptoms of this impending doom? Oh and I am in SoCal.
One of the earliest symptoms would probably be increasing smoke. Harder cold starts. Irregular idle. Less acceleration. Maybe injector noise (nailing). I would think that you are probably at a better chance of not ruining the engine in the long run if you usually drive good distances. If the car gets a chance to really warm up. From 25 miles up, and not stop and go, but long drives on the highway.
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I'm thinking he want get away with it for long, I life in sunny Austin TX. And I still have to drive some distance before my greasecar kit, + veggie therm warms up my grease to 180 degrees. If you’re starting your car on cold grease you’re going to have problems. The said thing is, is so many people are jumping into the veggie world with out doing there home work. We have people stop by my business all the time wanting to purchase grease, and when I look at there system. All I can say is, you might want to try this, or are you really getting up to 180 degrees. Some of them don't really understand how it every works. All we can do is educate people the best way you can.

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Hang on...if he is in a pretty warm climate, never under 60 degrees, he might get away (also saving the IP) by adding one of those VegTherm inline electric heaters from neoteric. They heat up pretty damn fast. I added mine to my two tank system, but just just before the injectors, but rather before the IP. If the climate is warm enough, he might get away with just that. And probably cutting the fuel a little, like adding 20-30%biodiesel to the veg oil, for example. Or kerosene.

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