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Old 02-21-2007, 06:58 PM
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A bit off subject - Tractors and Biodiesel - Mardi Gras

rather than hitting up the various biodiesel/WVO forums I figured I'd go with the experts so I can have some stats/opinions in hand.

I'm discussing with the organizers of Mardi Gras here in New Orleans to run their tractors which tow all of the floats to run on biodiesel as good will gesture. They'll need to be at ease over the viability of such an operation so I'm trying to get as much information as possible. On the plus side the organizers own almost all of the towing tractors so there will be a single point of contact.

Knowing that several members here have diesel tractors, I was curious if you have run them on biodiesel and have you had any problems beyond the odd fuel filter and maybe natural rubber line replacement.

Thanks for the input!

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Old 02-21-2007, 08:04 PM
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no side effects other than smoother running, better smelling, and environmentally green.
not to mention the whole carbon emission vs katrina theories. great cause man.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:30 PM
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You know someone at Blaine Kern??

I grew up in NOLA and rode in Carrollton once. It was a blast but i did smell diesel exhaust the whole time...among other things.

Have you looked in the biodiesel forums yet? I know you said you wanted to ask the experts first but they know a thing or two over there as well. Sorry, but I don't really know much about tractors

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Old 02-21-2007, 09:42 PM
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You know someone at Blaine Kern??

I grew up in NOLA and rode in Carrollton once. It was a blast but i did smell diesel exhaust the whole time...among other things.

Have you looked in the biodiesel forums yet? I know you said you wanted to ask the experts first but they know a thing or two over there as well. Sorry, but I don't really know much about tractors

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums
Well, lets just say I've got a few connections, none due to my own reputation or merit . Hopefully a meeting will happen shortly since as you know that they start planning and building for next year on Ash Wednesday! Amazing operation.

I check out the biodiesel.infopop from time to time and they definitely know their stuff. A bit more noise in the line there...plus I feel more at home here .

Told my friend the riders and the crowd will probably have even bigger smiles when they smell the rolling restaurant coming down the road.
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Old 02-21-2007, 10:10 PM
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No problems

I have had my diesel garden tractor on B100 for almost two years and haven't had any problems. A couple of the IP return lines started to melt after 18 months so I replaced them. My wife really appreciates the "no diesel stink."
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:57 PM
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no side effects other than smoother running, better smelling, and environmentally green.
...and lower resale value.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:10 AM
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David Brown 990 diesel on biofuel

I have a 1971 David Brown 990 tractor (3 litre 4 cyl UK built diesel, CAV injectors and injection pump) that has run on B2 for several years. No problems at all. Fuel lines are all good old fashioned copper pipe so no issues with soft rubber hoses! The unit has done God-knows how many hours without the head coming off ... hour meter stopped at 3,600 before I bought it 7 years ago!!

Starts more easily, less smoke, less smell........

In Peterborough County, Ontario - where my farm is - we have a flourishing co-op providing bio diesel by the drum to local farmers. Taxes on biofuel were reduced by the Ontarion government Jan 1 to encourage people to switch from dino diesel.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:14 AM
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In warm weather, and when I know I'll be working her hard for a long time (shredding or on the grinder) I'll run up to 50% WVO in my '78 JD 2040 (Mannheim-built, 3 cyl DI). Not a problem and smells fairly nice too.
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...and lower resale value.

Frim Biodiesel???
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I have a 1971 David Brown 990 tractor (3 litre 4 cyl UK built diesel, CAV injectors and injection pump) that has run on B2 for several years. No problems at all. Fuel lines are all good old fashioned copper pipe so no issues with soft rubber hoses! The unit has done God-knows how many hours without the head coming off ... hour meter stopped at 3,600 before I bought it 7 years ago!!

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A friend of mine has one of those, it has a bazillion hours on it and always runs when the newer tractors break down. Though, the full hydraulic steering is always giving him a fit.
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:18 AM
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Frim Biodiesel???
I know there are several members here, myself included, that would walk away from a potential car purchase if there was any sign that it's been "converted" to run WVO/SVO (Or has run WVO/SVO in the past).
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Old 02-23-2007, 03:06 AM
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Question What the hell ??? Do you own stock in Exxon or something ???

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I know there are several members here, myself included, that would walk away from a potential car purchase if there was any sign that it's been "converted" to run WVO/SVO (Or has run WVO/SVO in the past).
Hello Everyone
I just had to say something here.

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WOW ! Do you own stock in Exxon or something ?? :wtf:


First thing, nobody was talking about converting a vehicle !

Second thing, nobody was talking about WVO/SVO !

Third thing, you have not been following the prices people are paying for an old diesel vehicle. They go up, if you mention biodiesel, or conversion !


What you have is an opinion, and they are like *******s.
Everyone has one, and they usually stink ! :fork_off:



Undoubtedly this will illicit a response from you ForcedInduction and I do not want to hijack this thread. So start a new thread if you must.



Personally I love the idea of the parade running on biodiesel.
And I am looking forward to hearing the news people talk about it on TV.


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Old 02-23-2007, 03:09 AM
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Undoubtedly this will illicit a response from you ForcedInduction and I do not want to hijack this thread. So start a new thread if you must.
I will continue to consume my PetroDiesel.
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Old 02-23-2007, 03:20 AM
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...and lower resale value.
Hey forced your a smart guy and i respect your knowledge when it comes to these cars but bashing bio or alternative fuels just lowers your credibility.

I understand your bashing of "conversions" like lovecraps systems and i bash them as well!

But bashing biodiesel, a fuel thats all good and no evil just lowers your credibility.
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Old 02-23-2007, 03:23 AM
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But bashing biodiesel, a fuel thats all good and no evil just lowers your credibility.
Don't forget about the nasty 2% increase in NOx emissions! (j/k )

I know biodiesel can be a huge help to the economy and environment. However, until it's regulated and strict quality controls are in place, it will likely remain a niche market.

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