Diesel fuel 46 cents a gallon? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

jbach36 · #1 05-10-2007, 07:11 PM

I was searching for fuel stations on the internet when this ad popped up, diesel fuel for $.46/gallon. I went to the site, it's called Diesel Secret Energy, so I'm sure if it's a secret, it must be junk, but wanted to verify it.

http://www.dieselsecret.com/?engine=adwords!5051&keyword=%28fuel+diesel%29&match_type=&gclid=CLbP4bfbhIwCFQuQGgodL0Njyw

Jeff

Old300D · #2 05-10-2007, 08:57 PM

Right. Their "secret" is just snake oil added to vegetable oil and some petroleum solvents. And it certainly isn't $0.46 a gallon anymore with gas prices over $3.00. Understand there may be consequences for starting a vehicle on vegetable oil like crankcase oil dilution/polymerization and coked rings.

#3 05-10-2007, 08:59 PM

Pure snake oil.

DSE additive Material Safety Data Sheet
General
Synonyms: dimethylbenzene, xylol
Molecular formula: C6H4(CH3)2 This is a mixture of the three xylenes, m-xylene (CAS 108-38-3), o-xylene (CAS 95-47-6) and p-xylene (CAS 106-42-3), and often also contains ethyl bezene (CAS 100-41-4).
CAS No: 1330-20-7
EINECS No:
Physical data
Appearance: colourless liquid
Melting point: -48 C
Boiling point: 137 C
Vapour density: 3.7 (air = 1)
Vapour pressure: 5.1 mm Hg at 20 C
Density (g cm-3): 0.87
Flash point: 27 C (closed cup)
Explosion limits: 1.1 - 7%
Autoignition temperature:
Water solubility:
Stability
Stable. Highly flammable - incompatible with strong oxidizing agents.
Toxicology
Harmful if swallowed or inhaled. Eye, skin and respiratory irritant. May act as a narcotic. Typical TLV/TWA 100 ppm.
Toxicity data
(The meaning of any abbreviations which appear in this section is given here.)

ORL-RAT LD50 4300 mg kg-1
SCU-RAT LD50 1700 mg kg-1
Transport information
Personal protection
Safety glasses, good ventilation. Remove sources of ignition from the working area

General
Synonyms: albocarbon, mighty 150, mighty rd1, moth flakes, NCI-C52904, white tar, naphthalin, naphthene, camphor tar, tar camphor, moth balls
Molecular formula: C10H8
CAS No: 91-20-3
EC No: 202-049-5
Physical data
Appearance: white crystals
Melting point: 77 C
Boiling point: 218 C
Specific gravity: 1.14
Vapour pressure: 1 mm Hg at 20 C
Vapour density: 4.4 g/l
Flash point: 88 C
Explosion limits: 0.9 - 5.9%
Autoignition temperature:
Stability
Stable. Flammable - avoid sources of ignition. Incompatible with oxidising agents. Heat-sensitive. Sublimes slowly at room temperature.
Toxicology
May cause irritation. Toxic by inhalation or ingestion. TLV 10 ppm. Sensitizer. Possible carcinogen.
Toxicity data
(The meaning of any abbreviations which appear in this section is given here.)

ORL-CHD LDLO 100 mg kg-1
UNR-HMN LDLO 29 mg kg-1
ORL-MUS LD50 533 mg kg-1
IVN-MUS LD50 100 mg kg-1
ORL-RBT LD50 3000 mg kg-1
Irritation data
EYE-RBT 100 mg/mld
SKN-RBT 495 mg open mld
Risk phrases
(The meaning of any risk phrases which appear in this section is given here.)

R20 R21 R22 R36 R37 R38 R43 R45.
Personal protection
Safety glasses. Use efficient ventilation.

krwsenior · #4 05-10-2007, 09:09 PM

My brother has put over 100,000 miles on his 99 F350 with a 7.3 litre turbo using "Diesel Secret" fuel made from peanut oil from a local fish resturant. The additive that the company sells may not be adding any value to the fuel, but the overall process works very well. His truck has over 300,000 miles on it with no problems. He makes the "fuel" for about 55 cents a gallon and mixes it with diesel fuel at a 60% VO and 40% diesel. What can I say. Snake oil will burn too!

Hatterasguy · #5 05-10-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by krwsenior

My brother has put over 100,000 miles on his 99 F350 with a 7.3 litre turbo using "Diesel Secret" fuel made from peanut oil from a local fish resturant. The additive that the company sells may not be adding any value to the fuel, but the overall process works very well. His truck has over 300,000 miles on it with no problems. He makes the "fuel" for about 55 cents a gallon and mixes it with diesel fuel at a 60% VO and 40% diesel. What can I say. Snake oil will burn too!

Your brother is lucky. Its snake oil.

#6 05-10-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by krwsenior

Snake oil will burn too!

That's about all it's doing.

Jadavis · #7 05-10-2007, 10:14 PM

Your brother may have modified his truck a little too. A nice heat exchanger to bump up the fuel temperature and a nice warm climate goes a long way.

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/1311010701

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/4511077101

Read away!

-Jim

Old300D · #8 05-11-2007, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krwsenior

My brother has put over 100,000 miles on his 99 F350 with a 7.3 litre turbo using "Diesel Secret" fuel made from peanut oil from a local fish resturant. The additive that the company sells may not be adding any value to the fuel, but the overall process works very well. His truck has over 300,000 miles on it with no problems. He makes the "fuel" for about 55 cents a gallon and mixes it with diesel fuel at a 60% VO and 40% diesel. What can I say. Snake oil will burn too!

That's not the receipe. It's more like 85% VO with kerosene and gasoline, plus a few drops of the magic stuff. So your brother isn'tt adhering to the "DSE" cult. And he's lucky too. How often does he change oil? What is the ambient temperature when starting the engine? 100k in only a couple of years sounds like a lot of highway miles...

Biglex · #9 05-12-2007, 02:50 AM

from what I understand, the snake oil is nothing more than a mix of xylene and naptha. It is SUPPOSED to help the water in the oil so the water block filter can filter it out. Does it work, beats me, i do know that gasoline or kerosene does thin the oil out well.