Waste vegetable oil MUST BE FILTERED - Page 4 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

RichC · #46 06-18-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter

It is that deep, dark, secret place, called Open Discussion.

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Hello whunter

Why did you not take your post to open discussion ?

You are experiencing the same exact thing as I have.
Any post having anything to do with alternative fuels gets derailed, badly.

And you are a moderator!
People have more respect for you on this forum!
And you can delete posts! ...???...

I am just a peasant, trying to get along.
Just being honest.

Thank You
RichC
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whunter · #47 06-19-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

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Hello whunter

Why did you not take your post to open discussion ?

You are experiencing the same exact thing as I have.
Any post having anything to do with alternative fuels gets derailed, badly.

And you are a moderator!
People have more respect for you on this forum!
And you can delete posts! ...???...

I am just a peasant, trying to get along.
Just being honest.

Thank You
RichC
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This is on topic in DD.

I avoid OD except on rare visits to post a thread.
A couple of posts in this thread have been deleted by me.

The topic is filtering WVO.
Not oil companies
Not governments
Not wars
or any other off topic issues.

RNCarl · #48 06-19-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

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Hello Everyone

Hey ! That one system at your link above looks just like mine.

It looks allot like mine.

O yea, it is mine.

Have Fun Everyone
RichC
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RichC
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So then you are Sunwizard?

RichC · #49 06-19-2007, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RNCarl

So then you are Sunwizard?

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Hello RNCarl

I am RichC there also.

Pictures of my setup are further into the thread, page 50.

Thank You
RichC

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pmari · #50 06-19-2007, 07:54 AM

From what I have read D.C. of India has been running tests with CDI's and neat biodiesel. The results have been positive according to D.C. of India.

http://www.blonnet.com/2006/12/06/stories/2006120605260300.htm
The Managing Director and CEO of DaimlerChrysler India, Dr Wilfried Aulbur, in a statement said, "The biodiesel project is at a very exciting stage now. Our vehicle tests with 100 per cent pure (unblended) biodiesel continue to show positive results. We have widened the fleet of Mercedes-Benz cars powered by biodiesel and have set up storage and dispensing facility for biodiesel at Pune to facilitate fleet-testing and research upon shelf life and storage issues of biodiesel."

http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/dccom/0,,0-5-7165-1-446319-1-0-0-446301-0-0-243-7165-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html
In a simple process plant oil is converted into bio diesel fuel. Crossing India a Mercedes-Benz C-Class tested the fuel on the road.

http://www.indiacar.com/infobank/articles/mercbiodiesel/index.asp
Known for numerous firsts the world over, DaimlerChrysler's biodiesel fuelled C-class is another first, this time for India. the cars were exactly in the same state of tune as the regular C220 CDI and the engines had not been modified. The few changes were in the rubber and plastic parts in the fuel lines.

http://www.mercedes-benz.co.in/companymilestone.htm
Mercedes-Benz C-Class is successfully tested with bio-diesel fuel across India as part of the project with CSIR and Hohenheim University.

http://www.csmcri.org/Documents/Bien...ort%202004.pdf
page 77...
DaimlerChrysler undertook tests with our neat biodiesel in view of the high standard of specifications achieved by us. Mercedes Benz C 220 CDI manual transmission vehicles (two numbers) were used for this purpose and these were used without any engine modification. As a precautionary measure, some plastic seals in the fuel system were replaced with inexpensive rubber seals although this may not be necessary in the future.

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Originally Posted by BioPOWER

CRD/CDI injectors are electronically actuated. Using WVO or poor-quality biodiesel will ruin those injectors!

The CRD/CDI systems are extremely low tolerance, e.g., three or five injections per power stroke, piezo-crystal injectors, etc, and will be damaged by any fuel other than diesel.

There is enough of a concern with biodiesel forming "coagulations" at the 23,000 psi reached within the common rail system, that WVO/SVO should be avoided in a common rail system.

NC Benz · #51 06-19-2007, 08:14 AM

Your first three links are not working for me.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by pmari

From what I have read D.C. of India has been running tests with CDI's and neat biodiesel. The results have been positive according to D.C. of India.

http://www.blonnet.com/2006/12/06/st...0605260300.htm
The Managing Director and CEO of DaimlerChrysler India, Dr Wilfried Aulbur, in a statement said, "The biodiesel project is at a very exciting stage now. Our vehicle tests with 100 per cent pure (unblended) biodiesel continue to show positive results. We have widened the fleet of Mercedes-Benz cars powered by biodiesel and have set up storage and dispensing facility for biodiesel at Pune to facilitate fleet-testing and research upon shelf life and storage issues of biodiesel."

http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/dccom...-0-0-0,00.html

http://www.indiacar.com/infobank/art...esel/index.asp

http://www.mercedes-benz.co.in/companymilestone.htm

Now if someone wants to point to the fact that it's Jatropha Biodiesel and NOT soy based, I won't debate that point.

Update: http://www.csmcri.org/Documents/Bien...ort%202004.pdf

page 77...
DaimlerChrysler undertook tests with our neat biodiesel in view of the high standard of specifications achieved by us. Mercedes Benz C 220 CDI manual transmission vehicles (two numbers) were used for this purpose and these were used without any engine modification. As a precautionary measure, some plastic seals in the fuel system were replaced with inexpensive rubber seals although this may not be necessary in the future.

pmari · #52 06-19-2007, 09:43 AM

OK, try 'em now.

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Originally Posted by NC Benz

Your first three links are not working for me.
Thanks

NC Benz · #53 06-19-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pmari

OK, try 'em now.

Nope the links have "...." in them. Missing the letters.

vstech · #54 06-19-2007, 11:33 AM

all the links in his post are working. the quoted links in nc benz's post are not working...

vstech · #55 06-19-2007, 11:37 AM

I like this part of one of his links...
“What’s more, the CO2 balance of fuels derived from renewable energy sources is much better than that of fuels based on crude oil,” Maly adds. After all, the combustion of biodiesel releases only the amount of CO2 that the plant removed from the atmosphere when it was growing. Only the amount of energy used for the cultivation, harvesting and transport of the plants plus the energy needed to produce biodiesel affects the CO2 balance. And in principle, it is possible to significantly reduce that energy figure."

whunter · #56 08-31-2008, 11:52 PM

for customer.

Used vegetable oil MUST be FILTERED.

rcounts · #57 09-01-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

Yes, it makes all the difference. The oil stock used to make biodiesel is processed and refined for the sole purpose of making fuel.
WVO was NEVER intended to become fuel. It was made to cook food in.

Sorry, but neither of those statements is 100% true. The base oil stock used to make a lot of commercial biodiesel is EXACTLY the same stock used for deep fryer oil. Soybean, canola, sunflower, all of these are used for both food and bio.

Also, FWIW, Google Standard Biodiesel in Arlington Washington. They produce and sell commercial bio made 100% from WVO...

#58 09-01-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rcounts

They produce and sell commercial bio made 100% from WVO...

They don't filter it and sell it, they actually make BioDiesel with it.

Strife · #59 09-01-2008, 01:14 AM

A friend of mine powers a Ford Diesel and a MB with WVO; he has some kind of centrifugal filter that was very expensive to buy but cheap to use.

Joe Marroso · #60 09-01-2008, 04:33 AM

I would like to broaden this discussion. WVO must be filtered, yes; several times before it reaches the conversion tank. Even the final product should be poured through panty hose to prevent some unseen airborne contamination from entering the fuel system. Never, I say, never pour the entire contents out from "settling" buckets. Leave an inch at the bottom, then pour that remainder back into another settling bucket.

The major kit manufacturers make beautiful electric pump/filter assemblies that cost nearly $1k and use excellent but expensive filters. You must amortize the filters into the WVO cost. There is even on of these pump/fiters that can fit in the caverous MB trunk so you can try long distances.

Maybe some day I will get one of those, but right now I use a 4inch tube of ABS filled with a roll of 2ply toilet tissue. Plumbing connectiions are on each end of the tube. The pre-filtered WVO is gravity fed through a car heater core that is semi immersed in an old crock pot to heat the WVO. One roll will do 25 gallons and that gets me through 2 weeks. I can place the whole enterprise on a 6-foot step ladder. I have pictures if anybody's interested. Just send me a message.

Joe Marroso