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Old 10-12-2007, 02:10 PM
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WVO and Greasecar

I'm thinking I'm going to buy some kind of kit to be able to run WVO all year - got some good steady sources, and am wondering if there is a consensus on which of the available kits are any better than the rest, or if there really isnt much difference?
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:29 PM
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:33 PM
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The best kit is one you make yourself. Do your research, understand whats going on, then carefully make decisions about parts and setup

This forum has a wealth of knowledge http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/159605551
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:15 PM
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I agree that if you know what you're doing, building your own system is probably best, but if you don't have that much time or mechanical ability, there are several kits to choose from.

The Greasecar.com kit gives you a pretty good bang for your buck as compared to some of the others. There is debate over 1-tank vs 2-tank setups, with the 2-tank being the more conservative (less likely to screw up your car) option. I've added a couple of components to make my Greasecar kit more effective, especially during cold weather.

And yes, there are also people on this forum who think veggie burners are committing the murder of our vehicles.

Even if you are buying a kit, you will definitely want to do some careful research first.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:25 PM
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I agree that if you know what you're doing, building your own system is probably best, but if you don't have that much time or mechanical ability, there are several kits to choose from.

The Greasecar.com kit gives you a pretty good bang for your buck as compared to some of the others. There is debate over 1-tank vs 2-tank setups, with the 2-tank being the more conservative (less likely to screw up your car) option. I've added a couple of components to make my Greasecar kit more effective, especially during cold weather.

And yes, there are also people on this forum who think veggie burners are committing the murder of our vehicles.

Even if you are buying a kit, you will definitely want to do some careful research first.
What components did you add? I have a greasecar system in my 240D. I also run a plantdrive two tank system in my F250 that has the tank heat exchanger, heated Vormas fuel filter, and the electric inline heater.

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Old 10-12-2007, 05:47 PM
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What components did you add? I have a greasecar system in my 240D. I also run a plantdrive two tank system in my F250 that has the tank heat exchanger, heated Vormas fuel filter, and the electric inline heater.

John
VegTherm inline heater is always a good option, so are injector line heaters...
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:12 PM
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Hello

I second the suggestion of reading up at

biodiesel.infopop.cc

And maybe keeping an open mind

You may want to start blending or single tanking.

There are lots of options.

Have Fun !

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Old 10-12-2007, 07:06 PM
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I'm partial to frybrid (www.frybrid.com) mostly for the fact that they don't use copper, and it delivers more heat to the system. I pieced together a system pretty much identical to frybrid's and didn't really come out ahead...and had to do a bit of leg work. I'd recommend eliminating the headache and get a kit, whichever one you decide to go with.

If you go with the greasecar system in a colder climate, I'd suggest you add a heat exchanger right before the IP that is the first stop for the hot coolant coming out of the engine and the last stop for the fuel going into the engine (well, before the supply valve).
You could add a vegtherm, but I think coolant heat is more reliable and consistent than electric heat (and a by-product, so its re-using energy the engine is getting rid of anyway instead of taking energy away from the alternator).

Look over at the infopop, frybrid, and greasecar forums...there's more info (and more sympathy over there).
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:08 PM
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There are many sources for info/parts to run WVO. I use the Lovecraft single tank system and it works well (15,000 trouble free miles on free fuel!). It is inexpensive and easy to maintain (permanent washable filter). I'm in California, so a single tank system works good for the Benz all year long. Injection line heaters work well with single tank, and are a benefit on a 2 tank in the winter. A 2 tank system is best for cold weather, and you can run hydrogenated as well (NEVER with a single tank). I heard a guy say he could put a stick of butter in his Veg tank, and it would burn it!
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:52 PM
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.....I use the Lovecraft single tank system and it works well (15,000 trouble free miles on free fuel!). It is inexpensive and easy to maintain (permanent washable filter). I'm in California, ....

Not entirely free.. Please pay your CA road taxes on it. Also if you stick with LC system at least switch out the permanent filter with a real Davco filter setup.

Check out what the permenant filter looks like.




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Old 10-12-2007, 08:10 PM
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And yes, there are also people on this forum who think veggie burners are committing the murder of our vehicles.
Yet they offer NO first hand proof whatsoever that properly dewatered and filtered WVO does any damage at all.
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:42 AM
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Yet they offer NO first hand proof whatsoever that properly dewatered and filtered WVO does any damage at all.
That's the issue. 90% of the fad followers DON'T correctly prepare their "fuel" before use.

Veggie is MURDER!
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:37 AM
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That's the issue. 90% of the fad followers DON'T correctly prepare their "fuel" before use.

Veggie is MURDER!
Don't bother, I've given up talking about this. It will just go away on it's own when they run out of cheap cars and move on to something else. We're not going to buy one of these hacked up cars anyway, so who cares?

It's sorta like arguing about your kids music choices, the more you mention it, the more you have to hear it.
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:57 AM
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I'll probably get flamed, but I bought two Greasecar kits and found them so totally inadequate they have been bastardized beyond all recognition. I didn't really have the choice of Frybrid or FossilFreeFuels.com when I was purchasing. I did buy some parts from Plantdrive and found their customer service 2nd to none.

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Old 10-15-2007, 05:04 PM
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There are many sources for info/parts to run WVO. I use the Lovecraft single tank system and it works well (15,000 trouble free miles on free fuel!). It is inexpensive and easy to maintain (permanent washable filter). I'm in California, so a single tank system works good for the Benz all year long. Injection line heaters work well with single tank, and are a benefit on a 2 tank in the winter. A 2 tank system is best for cold weather, and you can run hydrogenated as well (NEVER with a single tank). I heard a guy say he could put a stick of butter in his Veg tank, and it would burn it!
Isn't that special? How does the butter fit through the fuel lines?
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