I'm thinking I'm going to buy some kind of kit to be able to run WVO all year - got some good steady sources, and am wondering if there is a consensus on which of the available kits are any better than the rest, or if there really isnt much difference?

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84 300 D Turbo, 222,000 and rolling, veggie most of the time.
91 350 SDL veggie wannabe

[looks in ForcedInduction's direction]


Where's my helmet?

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Current Mercedes
1979 maple yellow 240D 4-speed

Gone and fondly remembered:
1980 orient red 240D 4-speed

Gone and NOT fondly remembered:
1982 Chna Blue 300TD

Other car in the stable:
2013 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI / 6-speed MT

The best kit is one you make yourself. Do your research, understand whats going on, then carefully make decisions about parts and setup

This forum has a wealth of knowledge http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/159605551

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-Dan
1983 240D AT, 163K running on VO, "The Patience Tester"

I agree that if you know what you're doing, building your own system is probably best, but if you don't have that much time or mechanical ability, there are several kits to choose from.

The Greasecar.com kit gives you a pretty good bang for your buck as compared to some of the others. There is debate over 1-tank vs 2-tank setups, with the 2-tank being the more conservative (less likely to screw up your car) option. I've added a couple of components to make my Greasecar kit more effective, especially during cold weather.

And yes, there are also people on this forum who think veggie burners are committing the murder of our vehicles.

Even if you are buying a kit, you will definitely want to do some careful research first.

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1987 Mercedes 300D ~200K (Greasecar & Biodiesel)
1993 Ford F-250 7.3 IDI diesel 165K (Biodiesel)
1996 Thomas/International Bus with DT466 engine

What components did you add? I have a greasecar system in my 240D. I also run a plantdrive two tank system in my F250 that has the tank heat exchanger, heated Vormas fuel filter, and the electric inline heater.

John

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2002 F250 powerstroke with Plantdrive WVO conversion
1983 300SD 190K miles ,sold
2006 E320 CDI

VegTherm inline heater is always a good option, so are injector line heaters...

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Hello

I second the suggestion of reading up at

biodiesel.infopop.cc

And maybe keeping an open mind

You may want to start blending or single tanking.

There are lots of options.

Have Fun !

RichC


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I'm partial to frybrid (www.frybrid.com) mostly for the fact that they don't use copper, and it delivers more heat to the system. I pieced together a system pretty much identical to frybrid's and didn't really come out ahead...and had to do a bit of leg work. I'd recommend eliminating the headache and get a kit, whichever one you decide to go with.

If you go with the greasecar system in a colder climate, I'd suggest you add a heat exchanger right before the IP that is the first stop for the hot coolant coming out of the engine and the last stop for the fuel going into the engine (well, before the supply valve).
You could add a vegtherm, but I think coolant heat is more reliable and consistent than electric heat (and a by-product, so its re-using energy the engine is getting rid of anyway instead of taking energy away from the alternator).

Look over at the infopop, frybrid, and greasecar forums...there's more info (and more sympathy over there).
Good luck,
-Geoff

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1985 300TD-euro 352,000 mi
1974 240D (1?)52,000 mi - has a new home now

There are many sources for info/parts to run WVO. I use the Lovecraft single tank system and it works well (15,000 trouble free miles on free fuel!). It is inexpensive and easy to maintain (permanent washable filter). I'm in California, so a single tank system works good for the Benz all year long. Injection line heaters work well with single tank, and are a benefit on a 2 tank in the winter. A 2 tank system is best for cold weather, and you can run hydrogenated as well (NEVER with a single tank). I heard a guy say he could put a stick of butter in his Veg tank, and it would burn it!

Not entirely free.. Please pay your CA road taxes on it. Also if you stick with LC system at least switch out the permanent filter with a real Davco filter setup.

Check out what the permenant filter looks like.

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1983 123.133 California
- GreaseCar Veg System

Yet they offer NO first hand proof whatsoever that properly dewatered and filtered WVO does any damage at all.

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1984 300D
1985 300CD
1980 300SD
1993 SL500

That's the issue. 90% of the fad followers DON'T correctly prepare their "fuel" before use.

Veggie is MURDER!

Don't bother, I've given up talking about this. It will just go away on it's own when they run out of cheap cars and move on to something else. We're not going to buy one of these hacked up cars anyway, so who cares?

It's sorta like arguing about your kids music choices, the more you mention it, the more you have to hear it.

I'll probably get flamed, but I bought two Greasecar kits and found them so totally inadequate they have been bastardized beyond all recognition. I didn't really have the choice of Frybrid or FossilFreeFuels.com when I was purchasing. I did buy some parts from Plantdrive and found their customer service 2nd to none.

Bill

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'87 300SDL, intensely modified Greasecar setup, with nickle plated heat exchanger, 3 valve setup, 312,000 miles
'95 Suburban diesel, Greasecar basics, 16 plate heat exchanger, mercedes fuel lines, Racor filter
'85 Renault Alliance converted full electric vehicle

Isn't that special? How does the butter fit through the fuel lines?

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'01 VW Beetle TDI
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD
'89 Toyota 4x4, needs 2L-T
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