I'm from upsate New York, the winters get very cold. I have heard that you need to get an extra fuel tank and heater to run WVO. I have also heard that it is ok to run a WVO in a mix with diesel(25%WVO,75%deisel)in the cold temps(below 50F) and in the warmer temps (+50F) I could run 75% WVO, 25% deisel without the seperate tank and heater? Does anyone know anything on this? Would it be a harm to my car to run the mix of WVO without the extra tank and heater?
Any help appreciated, Dan

Dan-

I'm no expert, I've only been running WVO for a few months. But I have done a lot reading and the impression that I get is that the 2-tank system is a much better way to go. Until the WVO hits about 160, the grease is at a much higher viscosity than diesel. Without the extra tank to heat your grease, you're going to put a strain on your injection pump.

Also, if it gets cold on you and you still have the summer blend in the tank, you're gonna be in deep yogurt. It will a make a mess of everything from your tank to your cylinders.

Of course, many have run one-tank and have had no problems. They tend to circulate in warmer areas.

And some people on this forum think running WVO in any form is "genocide." (Oh, the drama!)

My 2 cents. Best of luck!

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Dan,
Search back about 5 pages or maybe less. I asked a similar question. I'm new to diesels, and have 3 cars here on LI. This summer I ran all of them on various blends of wvo, which was basically settled in a 5 gallon jug, and then strained through a brass screen. I started with a 50-50 mix and I think at one time got to about 80 wvo-20dino mix. The cars run great, but with the colder weather coming, I'm switching back to dino. There are some issues that have been brought up on my earlier post, one in particular that I'm gonna research. That is the ph of the wvo, and coking of the cyl.head. Although I've had no problems, I don't want any either. I did have to change a prefilter on newly acquried oil that had plenty of grit in it that made it's way through the tank filter, but other than that, no problems. I do have a buddy who has 5 diesels, some for sale btw, and has no problems at all. In winter he dopes his mix with kero, and dino to keep it flowing. All single tank cars.
I'm sure there's a really good reason that folks are using 2 tanks, and I'll get to the bottom of this soon I hope along with a good schematic for plumbing my own system on the cheap. Also some folks take the wvo and filter it into a heating drum at home, and process it a bit before putting into their tanks. Gotta do more research on that too.
If anyone has some links for better understanding the above processes, I'd appreciate it muchly.

Dan,
Here's the link: straight wvo ?
Mike

i've been doing it for the last 10k miles, including temps below 15 deg..
here is my thread and also a lot of info. on the subject. i have learned tons of info about wvo from this site.
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9751014871/m/6351048581

i run 70wvo/30dino all year long. you need to find the correct wvo to do this.
all oil is not created equal, use only non hydro. oil.

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I hear you about the drama....whatever.

Anyway, I run my car all summer long up to a 70(wvo)/30(diesel) mix with no problems. It is getting a little colder now so I'll run a 50/50 or less. I run a full tank of straight diesel with some cleaner before putting her away for the winter. As far as running a blend all winter, I can't help you. I put her away at the first sign of snow.

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Hello Darnold4014

Take some clear jars and fill them with different percentages of mixes of the fuels you are using.

ie.. one 50/50 next 75/25 and so on.

Leave these jars outside where you can see if they gel up or not.

Use the mix that is not close to gelling

And

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums

Is a pretty good resource.
I am RichC there also.

Thank You
RichC

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You need to use a two tank system all the time. Cold WVO, at any mixture, is very hard on the injection pump and will not atomize properly.

Do you have any facts to back what you are saying?
No, you do not !

Are you really gonna start this again !!
Dude, you do not use or have any experience with WVO.
Just leave these people alone.
I will not respond to you in this thread so you can hijack yet another thread.
PM me if you have to discuss it.

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Look, ForcedInduction has really scaled back and is mostly giving good advice now

What he is saying is true and this is coming from an SVO user

If you don't believe atomization doesn't occur then go ahead and test it, make yourself a pop tester and test your injector with diesel or biodiesel and then cold VO. I guarantee you the non heated VO will not spray right and will drip

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1983 240D AT, 163K running on VO, "The Patience Tester"

Once AGAIN, you are spewing out information you know to be false. Stop trolling.

2-tank is the only way to correctly use WVO/SVO.

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The guy asked about mixing vegetable oil and other fuels.
And about two tank systems.

I personally run mixes, and know it works.
So do many other people.

The fuel atomizes.
I have seen what the atomized fuel looks like under a microscope.
I have seen the different spray patterns of different mixtures.
I am doing the research, and am putting my time and money on the line.
I know from first hand knowledge, and have the support of others who are doing the same.

Single tank systems work !

Forcedinduction has admitted to never using veggie oil.
He has no personal experience with the subject at all.

It just blows my mind that he comes to these threads and acts like he knows it all.

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Why do you keep lying? Grow up.

I have used vegetable oil before. I've used 2-tankfuls of SVO way back before I knew better than to do it. Other than the pleasant smell, the reduced economy, poor idle and hard starting made it clear how bad it was. Until a few months ago, I was even using commercial B20 BioDiesel. Unfortunately, it was made with Soy so I stopped using it because of it's food product based source. I occasionally visit a friend in Boulder who is well versed in the WVO/SVO/Biofuel fad. I have personally seen cars in his shop and many cars for sale in the Denver/Boulder that have shown exactly how bad the results can be, especially with single-tankers and and those that had questionable "fuel" sources.

It can very easily ruin an otherwise good car with greasy messes and a once-healthy engine with damaged injection components and plugging with carbon.

Now you know a abridged version of my history. Now you may stop spewing lies about me and grow up.

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Do not insult me !

So you have some extreamly limited experience.
Why dont you keep your opinions extremely limited ?

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Why don't you stop your trolling altogether?

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I am sorry, your two tanks of veggie oil makes you the veggie oil God.

Go ahead tell us all how you do it correctly.

We are not worthy !


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