I find it amazing that people are opposed to using WVO in cars, Benz's in particular. I understand that Benz enthusiast's don't like people screwing up perfectly good old cars, but from the forums I read, I can assure you that much effort is put into trying to do as little damage as possible by using WVO. And it is the good quality of Benz's that makes them such a good candidate for WVO.

Think about what WVO means. It means using an AMERICAN made product to fuel a vehicle. Keeping money in America instead of paying for another gold plated faucet in some palace somewhere or being spent on luxury jets, whiskey and hookers; or even supporting enemies of America!

Also think of the possibly innocent 100,000 Iraq's who have been killed in the current resource war. America is building 15 permanent bases in Iraq. And these aren't some tent filled tiny encampment's like you saw on "MASH", these are huge, permanent cities that will be there for a long, long time. Using WVO would, in a small way, eliminate the need for this.

It is also more environmentally friendly, not adding C02 the the atmosphere as fossil fuels do, it rather recycles it over and over thought the plants used to produce it.

Flame suit on

Peter

Isn't there lot of the problems with WVO? (Filtering, covertion, etc) Biodiesel is mainly used from American crops, I hope anyways. You can make your own biodiesel from WVO. With out as much risk. I am just not a fan of that in my engine.

Just my opinions Don't shoot

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1985 190D 2.2 auto--gone
1975 240D 4-speed--storage
1985 500SEL--daily driver
1985 300TD--bad rust, soon to part out...
1982 300SD--waiting on engine from RD
1984 190E--storage
1996 Dodge 2500 Cummins--daily driver

that "American" fuel isn't taxed so if you get caught "american" tax system will "get" "you"


Mistel, clearly you mean SVO fuel systems as WVO is just the stock for biodiesel or SVO use......

Peter,

I don't have a diesel or any desire to own one. I think among diesel owners, resistance is partly due to the newness of it, fear of causing harm to a good engine and just a plain old all-American "don't give a ****" attitude among many.

Availability of fuel may be another concern. Jst how available is this product from traditional sources?.
Is it availably on, say, the Ohio or PA turnpike? I think people would be very reluctant to have to go hunt for the product outside of the traditional retail network, which is controlled by,yep, the OIL Companies. Certainly they will be a willing ally in this!

Personally, I have a mental picture of a deep fat fryer with cold and congealed oil in it. Then thinking" this stuff goes in my fuel tank"? Then what happens? Undoubtedly, a totally false picture of reality, but enough to scare people away.
False Education Appearing Real.



My non-political $.02

I'm all in favor of using WVO-as a base from which to make biodiesel. Using WVO/SVO as is in the car requires the complexity of two tanks, a method to heat the veggie tank, and the possibility of corrosive damage to the fuel system depending on the ph of the oil. When you react the veggie base into biodiesel, you get rid of most of those problems.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.

Not true.
Not true at all.

I recommend contacting your State Comptroller of Public Accounts regarding “State Motor Fuels, Interstate Trucker, and IFTA information”, to get your facts straight.

You might even surprise yourself and find that the B100 fuels you buy at the pump are not taxed either.

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1980 300D - Veggie Burner !

I think people are more opposed to using veggie oil as a fuel without converting it to BioDiesel. Most conversions are not done properly or are just bad for the car (as the Lovecraft). Also MB does not want 'raw' fuel used in any of its engines. More people are willing to use bio stock as long as it is converted to real fuel as is the case with BioDiesel.
I agree with all of the arguments for getting off petroleum. There should be a national incentive to get off petroleum for as many uses as possible.
Think bio fuel for diesel, heating oil, jet fuel, & etc.

There should also be incentives for BUYING diesel powered transportation and not the reverse which is the case in Ca, NY, Ct, & etc.

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Current
Monika '74 450 SL
BrownHilda '79 280SL
FoxyCleopatra '99 Chevy Suburban
Scarlett 2014 Jeep Cherokee
Krystal 2004 Volvo S60
Gone
'74 Jeep CJ5
'97 Jeep ZJ Laredo
Rudolf ‘86 300SDL
Bruno '81 300SD
Fritzi '84 BMW
'92 Subaru
'96 Impala SS
'71 Buick GS conv
'67 GTO conv
'63 Corvair conv
'57 Nomad

I dislike good old MB's getting turned into rolling junkers by people who care more about the junk in the tank than the car itself. If fuel was $1 a gallon like it was 10 years ago no one would give a flip about WVO and the MB forums would be full of enthusiasts.

Usualy they know jack about cars, and Rube Goldberg the fuel system so bad its amazing the car still runs. The engine is always a mess caked with grease and oil. Then they hack up the dash to run a lot of dumb pointless guages, and switch's that do God knows what, and the interior gets trashed along the way.


Like I have said many times, I have never seen a nice MB with a quality well thought out WVO conversion. Just hacks.

I have no problem with Biodiesel, I would run it myself if it was availible at the pump and meet the proper quality standards.

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1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

If WVO is an alternative passenger car fuel, can WVO be used as home heating oil?

Sixto
87 300D

Yes, but you would still need to overcome the fact that it thickens or solidifies at the ambient temperatures where you would want to use it. Blending with used motor oil and other stuff in a shop drip heater works fine. I know people who have done it with the leftovers from deep-frying turkeys.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.

http://www.frybrid.com/220D.htm

Have a look, I wish it were mine

True.
Completely true.

WVO and SVO are NOT fuels or addatives. They are NOT legal to use in any on-road vehicles (Per the EPA). They are NOT "clean" when burned in engines. CO2 is NOT a pollutant. Using WVO/SVO does NOT change ANYTHING about "terrorism", the military or our conquest of Iraq. And you can get BIG fines for using it without paying your required taxes.

I'll post the link to report violators when I get home.

CO2 is not a pollutant??

Citations?

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1974 240D 3.0L 4(M) - 250K -OM617.910 + 300D FW + Rajay turbo power!
1977 6.9 3(A) - 84k

I'm with you. Too much C02 is harmful, just like to much water or oxygen would be harmfull, or too much money, as Britney Spears is showing us.

Earth's entire history.