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turnbase 01-25-2008 09:25 PM

Best WVO Kits
 
I really want to convert my 83 300TD to run on WVO but, the more researh I do, the more companies I find. A friend of mine at work has ben running a greasecar kit for years w/ no trouble (based on this, I was leaning toward a greasecar kit). I live in Colorado where single-digit temps occur regularly below zero temps occur quite a bit (especially this winter).

Any thoughts from you WVO vets is certainly appreciated:D

ForcedInduction 01-25-2008 09:30 PM

Any two tank system.

thesst 01-25-2008 09:37 PM

The best kits are Greasecar and Golden Fuel Systems (formerly Greasel).

turnbase 01-25-2008 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesst (Post 1743453)
The best kits are Greasecar and Golden Fuel Systems (formerly Greasel).

Why?

powerpig 01-25-2008 09:45 PM

I have the Greasecar two tank kit that has been professionally installed. I agree with ForcedInduction that is must be a two tank conversion. I've had it almost a year with no problems.

thesst 01-25-2008 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turnbase (Post 1743460)
Why?

Their custom-made parts are higher-quality than some of the other brands, and you really get a nice, complete, add-nothing-more kit.

The HIGHEST quality parts come from Golden Fuel Systems, but they are also more expensive than Greasecar and Greasecar parts are plenty good themselves.

For a balance of quality and price I would go with Greasecar.

a2t 01-25-2008 11:30 PM

Ive got Frybrid, and am quite pleased.

Make sure of a few things in any kit :

1. 2 tanks.
2. 2 3port valves, made from METAL (ie, no garbage plastic valves, God forbid 6 port plastic pollack valves)
3. sufficient means to heat the oil via heated fuel pick and either HIH or HOH lines. I personally prefer HIH lines but thats just me. You dont want a radiator dropped into a vat of oil in the tank, you want a heated tank pick up.
4. Warranty - 1 yr min.
5. Good customer service (this is about only place where frybrid stumbles).
6. I like the computer controller for switch overs. After a while, constantly remembering to switch to WVO is a pain. Its cool at 1st, but then gets to be annoying.

I'll think of more...feel free to ask questions here.

turnbase 01-26-2008 01:24 AM

Thanks for all the replys. I'm leaning toward a greasecar kit but, will continue to gather info until I'm ready to purchase.

zsmith29 01-26-2008 02:36 AM

I too and shopping around for a kit and I am honestly leaning towards making my own. I have a little experience in this type of work but not a whole lot. Does anyone have any experience in putting together their own two-tank system?

jaoneill 01-26-2008 08:29 AM

I put together a two tank system and have driven a little over 40K miles on wvo with no real issues. If I were to have purchased a kit it would have been a frybrid but, as indicated above, service is not Chris's forte. Took me months and email reminders just to get the stainless steel valves I ordered from them.

Key is heat exchange, more is better; in addition to the tank coil (pick-up in the center) my system has 78' of reverse flow HIH (all aluminum fuel line). Works very well to 0 F. Discretion being the better part of valor I haven't used wvo at temps lower than that. Have had enough grief with ULSD at subzero temps.

Jim

Paulc66t 01-26-2008 08:58 AM

>1. 2 tanks.
>2. 2 3port valves, made from METAL (ie, no garbage plastic valves, God >forbid 6 port plastic pollack valves)
>3. sufficient means to heat the oil via heated fuel pick and either HIH or >HOH lines. I personally prefer HIH lines but thats just me. You dont want >a radiator dropped into a vat of oil in the tank, you want a heated tank >pick up.
>4. Warranty - 1 yr min.
>5. Good customer service (this is about only place where frybrid >stumbles).
>6. I like the computer controller for switch overs. After a while, >constantly remembering to switch to WVO is a pain. Its cool at 1st, but >then gets to be annoying.

I would also add a flat plate heat exchanger in a cold enviroment. I just added one to my system and it works great. The temperature is much more stable over time.

minimike1 01-26-2008 10:14 AM

what is HIH and HOH?

suburbanviking 01-26-2008 10:58 AM

HIH - hose in hose
HOH - hose on hose

I have another question related to WVO kits. What about installation? DIY or have it professionally done?

.....Dan

Biodiesel300TD 01-26-2008 12:57 PM

I would defintely go with a two tank system. I would stay away from the HIH setups. If the fuel lines leak you won't know it, and you'll end up with fuel in your coolant. And they are a pain to change out. If you are looking into building your own system www.Greaseworks.org sell components for putting together a veg system. Here are the components I would suggest you use, despite who you get them from:

1. Supply and return valves
2. Some sort of coolant heater in the engine bay, such as a Arctic Fox Linhauler.
3. A seperate veg filter.
4. An electric heater in the engine bay, such as a Vegtherm
5. Injector line heaters.

Looped returns have a good side and a bad side. You loose less heat, but it's hard to purge out any air in the system. I would suggest a return to the tank instead of a looped return.

If you are interested. I had a tank made for my conversion that mounts to the stock tank mounts, so you don't have to drill any holes in the car for mounting the tank. It has a 1/2" tube through the bottom that can be plumbed for coolant so you don't need a hotfox or a different expensive heated fuel pickup tube. There are more conversion pics if you click on "Conversion Pics" in my signature.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...3_Veg_Tank.jpg

DrewKeen 01-26-2008 03:21 PM

They already come with a final heat exchanger (some are flat, some are coiled) My vote is also for Frybrid.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulc66t (Post 1743805)
>1. 2 tanks.
>2. 2 3port valves, made from METAL (ie, no garbage plastic valves, God >forbid 6 port plastic pollack valves)
>3. sufficient means to heat the oil via heated fuel pick and either HIH or >HOH lines. I personally prefer HIH lines but thats just me. You dont want >a radiator dropped into a vat of oil in the tank, you want a heated tank >pick up.
>4. Warranty - 1 yr min.
>5. Good customer service (this is about only place where frybrid >stumbles).
>6. I like the computer controller for switch overs. After a while, >constantly remembering to switch to WVO is a pain. Its cool at 1st, but >then gets to be annoying.

I would also add a flat plate heat exchanger in a cold enviroment. I just added one to my system and it works great. The temperature is much more stable over time.



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