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What about all the road taxes they collect on the fuel you use in your lawnmowers. I mow over 2 acres during the growing season with my lawn tractor and that uses quite a bit of fuel. What about that?
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I really love people who claim that my road taxes must fix the roads, and especially so when these people work for trucking companies.
Trucks do a whole lot more damage to the road. The last time I saw a comparison, one truck did an equivalent damage to 6000 sedans. Unless the truck burns 6000 times more fuel (and it clearly does not), it is grossly underpaying its share of the road repairs. |
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What about the argument that burning WOV pollutes much less than diesel so you should get any carbon credits you have paid refunded by Mao Gore and his minions.
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Google "ESALS" to see how civil engineers design today's pavements.
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If trucking companies paid their fair share of taxes by the time they passed that cost to the consumer we would get drilled even harder than we are now at the grocery store. Anyone for $10.00 a gal. milk?
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So the answer is to subsidize them? That's what happens now. So let's take it further and exempt all large trucks from fuel taxes. Why not write them a check every month too?
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At the end of the day, we're ALL taxpayers - and the definition of a "taxpayer"?............someone who works for the Federal Government but dosen't have to take the civil service exam.
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Why not Matt? We subsidize banks, farmers, the auto industry, airline companies......................It sucks but once you start throwing money at problems without regard to long term consequences it's almost impossible to stop. We could stop subsidizing airlines tomorrow. Does anybody want to deal with the results? Probably not. So we'll continue to flush our money and future right down the crapper.
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I was being facetious of course, thinking of the examples that you mention.
As for who is a taxpayer, it doesn't matter how you interpret the laws. The laws are there and the court interprets them. If you decide to "opt out" of the tax system while making any money in the US, you risk prosecution. There are a number of schemes alive today which claim to remove you from the tax rolls, and the IRS knows them all. They are considered "frivolous arguments" and come with an additional $5000 penalty. That's on top of the taxes that you will still owe, plus interest and penalties. Many tax deniers end up paying three times what they would have owed. |
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All the complaints on here from all over the country about the miserable infrastructure, failing bridges, etc... is just one more example that all y'all who voted for Bu$h got exactly what he promised you - he's doing for the USA what he did for Texas. What a maroon!
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VegOil . . . 1t's a moot point
Costco
Just got home from Costco. The least expensive veggie oil I saw was a "Golden Chef" brand soybean oil, $25.99 for a 35 pound jug. The fine print also gives the size as 589 fluid ounces, which is 4.60 gallons. That translates into $5.65 per gallon, so I didn't buy any, so I didn't learn whether sales tax is charged. If it is, the out-the-door price jumps to $6.10 per gallon. Either way, there's no point in buying it as a substitute for diesel fuel of any kind. Thus, all of the discussion of road taxes and engine damage is moot. YMMV Since this is almost certainly Midwest soybean oil, it had to be trucked or railroaded all the way to California. Forum members in other states may find lower prices. Let's hear from you. Jeremy
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Sorry- must be wrong price
I got this from my Mercedes Indy shop owner. A customer told him that Cosco had frying oil for 2.20 a gallon. You can't always believe what you hear. I guess a bicycle is the cheapest way but I live 25 miles from town! Ernie
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$25.99 for the 35 pound jug is pretty good. It's $30+ at Sam's Club.
I get it from a food wholesaler for my fryer (Shamrock Foods) and it's $26.45 right now. I'll be changing oil only 3 times per month (every 10 days instead of 7) since the price doubled. Which means I now need to find a second source for my car.
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The original poster has a pretty good point that I think got lost. He has an unaltered and completely legal car. He intends to pour straight VO into the tank and blend it with D2. He paid tax on the D2. Why should he be subject to tax on something that just gets him more miles per gallon of D2?
[for those following along, this is where FI completely changes his argument from tax to something else] FI, do everyone else a favor and get yourself a sticky in this forum where you can make all your arguments in one place. Do you really have the time to rehash and repost these same weak points over and over again? |
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