I am 42 years old now. I just can not get up like I used to.

I do miss the wind.

1:49AM

KABC news. Truckers are going to Mexico from San Diego to buy diesel fuel. They get it for 1/2 of what they pay in San Diego.

Finally the Bush administration has found a way to reverse the flow of illegal immigrants.

Raise the price of fuel enough and our truckers will go to Mexico!

Just keep raising it enough and we will be fine.

Tom W

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

If the fuel is being cracked, what are the leftovers and what do they do with them?

Im no organic chemist but im pretty sure you cant crack gasoline into hydrogen. If you can crack gasoline at all on board, youd probably just get white gas, or maybe some propane or butane. You will never get pure hydrogen. If refineries could crack crude into hydrogen im sure they would

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In a nutshell, if I pass an arc through a bunch of gasoline I get pure hydrogen gas. I don't think so. Were assuming this is in an oxygen free environment. Hydrogen is an extremely reactive element. Im sure if it were in the presence of ANYTHING under such incredible heat it would not stay hydrogen. And what happens to all your carbon? it just turns into soot and stays there? Well thats not very practical, so it would have to be burnt (turning it into CO2) but that introduces oxygen. And o2 and H don't mix very well in the presence of "plasma".

Im tired, and that probably doesn't make sense. But don't believe anything just because theres a patent on it. Ive read plenty of patents that are complete crap. All it looks like to me is a bunch of large scientific words to make you think it makes sense. It doesn't. You cant crack gasoline into hydrogen with a spark and feed it into an engine

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nevermind, I don't even care anymore.

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It does not matter if you using electrolysis on water.
Or electricity on gas.
Or anything on anything.

What I have been saying
and what I will say again.

Is that there has been no way to get more energy out of a system
than was put into it.

Push it, pull it, burn it, fart on it, do whatever you want to with it.
and use gas, water, poop or anything else.

No one has ever gotten more energy out than put in.

If you figure out a way to do this,
You have solved all of the worlds energy problems, forever !!


RichC

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Jimi Hendrix

The premise that you can't prove a negative it this.

To take your cat example.

Hypothisis: There are no white cats.

You can't prove this hypothisis, you can only disprove it by finding a white cat.

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'05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles
'86 300SDL - 360,000 miles
'85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold)
'89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold)
'85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold)
'98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold)
'75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold)
'83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-(
'61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes
2004 Papillon (Oliver)
2005 Tzitzu (Griffon)
2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba)

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It does not matter who tries to get more energy out than was put in.

Me, you, Einstein.

It has never worked.

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Yes, if you grind wood up first you get a quicker hotter flame.
But it burns a shorter length of time.

The log and the log chipped up and burnt
both give off the exact amount of energy.

One just takes longer than the other.

....

Contemplate this ....

No one has ever created perpetual motion.
The first person that does will have an unlimited source of energy.
They will have no need to sell the idea to anyone for any price.
Because energy just became free.....

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Please be my guest, spend your money on this product.
In fact I can build you a much better and less expensive hydrogen maker.
So send your money to me....
Then go to the car parts store and buy a battery and put it in your car.
And realize you allready have the most efficient hydrogen maker that man
has come up with.

...

I am beginning to wonder if this is a joke ???

Pretty good if it is.
Really sad if it is not....

Good Day To You !

RichC

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Oh yeah! And now with Zmax and fuel magnets I'm almost making fuel! I drove to school today and I went from 1/2 to almost 3/4 of a tank!


I never new it but the reason they sell this things on line is because big oil companies won't let them advertise in regular media. They really work though its amazing, and its totaly all Bush's fault!

I'm going to run with Dogbert's idea!

Hatties 50mpg kit, only $199.99, or 4 easy payments of $55.

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1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Yes, that's what I was getting at. It's the black swan example. There are no white cats is a universal negative claim. But not all negatives are universal claims.
For instance, the hydrogen system in question does not work can be proven. It's not a claim about all hydrogen systems it's just a claim about this particular one.

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1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Wrong. It's still a more universal negative than you can actually "prove" (again, no one in the real scientific world uses that word).

You can prove that it doesn't "work" on your car specifically, or that it doesn't work on any of the cars it's been tried on. But unless you can try it on every car in the world under every condition you cannot "prove" anything.

Again, you can find evidence SUPPORTING the claim that the system doesn't work. You cannot "prove" it.

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'82 Chevy Chevette diesel

Whether anyone uses the word 'prove' is just a matter of semantics and the social agreements amongst the scientists to which you refer. It depends on what one means by that word. If the system does not produce enough hydrogen to increase the fuel economy as they advertise in a paradigmatic example car, it's good enough for me to conclude it's not going to work on my car. Perhaps, there's a different kind of car on a remote planet on which it might work, but I'm going to be quite happy to live my life as if it doesn't work as soon as Forced has tested it on his car. In this particular example, I'm more than happy to forego the actual test and using general principle, believe that it ain't going to work, just like I also believe that Benny Hinn does not perform miracles even though I've never actually attempted to falsify any one of his alleged miracles. It's just not worth my time.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

What do you mean? It looks cool and works! LOL



Also check this users videos
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=vedbil

Anyone know if wood gasification can be used on diesel/compression ignited engines?

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1966 Mercedes Benz 230S with OM617.912, automatic. Disk brakes from W108
1983 Mercedes Benz 300TD grey, OM617.912 and 5-speed manual
1983 Mercedes Benz 300TD blue 7-seater, OM617.912 and 5-speed manual