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Old 06-24-2008, 01:43 PM
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Heat it good enough for the pump and it will be good enough for the injectors as well.

But you have a lot of injector tubing hanging out in the breez between the pump and the injector.

Testing injector temperature will give false readings.

Tecno-bable. If you think you know a method of testing actual injector tip temperature in a running engine, you must have access to some really good drugs.

convection from the head coolant and combustion will warm them up quicker than the fuel.

True, but that's not the point. The point is the hotter the fuel at startup in a cold engine the better the injector pattern and the less likely to cause coaking and fouling. Most of the "gumming up" you are always belly acing about happens in the first few revs before combustion heat has a chance to heat the injectors and lines through CONDUCTION not convection. The injector really dose not care how cold it is but burning cold fuel can help plug it up.
I've seen "heaters" on the injection lines leading to the motor that apparently can heat up to 200*, where can I find these? Would that solve some of the heating issues related to the injectors? I have NO idea what they are made up of (a hot wire maybe?), but I was planning on putting these on my car considering the time of year I'll be on the road.

Another thing I'm wondering about is where I can find cubies for sale. Is there an internet supplier or some place I can pick them up locally? I want to have a couple in my trunk both for settling and for extra capacity.

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Old 06-24-2008, 02:18 PM
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Around where I live, the restaurants almost all throw their empty cubies away. Some separate the plastic from the cardboard; some don't. I suggest finding a friendly restaurateur and asking him or her to save some for you. In any dealings with restaurants (or other people for that matter) try to make things easier, not harder, for them. For example, most restaurants have very little or no extra space around the kitchen, and most cooks have little spare time, depending on time of day. If you can arrange it, pick up the cubies on the same day they're emptied so they don't sit around in somebody's way. One place I was getting oil changes their oil at a very specific time twice a week. I just showed up when the cooks arrived to start their day, with my metal containers (Hot oil WILL melt cubies) and they were happy to run the old oil right into them. That saved them the rest of the procedure they otherwise went through to get the oil into the tallow company's barrel.
Or just nose around the dumpsters behind the restaurants. It's a good idea to talk to somebody from the restaurant first so you're not reported as "loitering" or something like that. If you're going to travel from fryer to fryer as you plan, you'll need to get used to approaching strangers - some of whom speak little or no English - to ask them things they may never have heard of.
By now, you must have read at least some of the stickies on the oil sites about stuff like "How to get oil".
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:03 PM
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Another thing I'm wondering about is where I can find cubies for sale. Is there an internet supplier or some place I can pick them up locally? I want to have a couple in my trunk both for settling and for extra capacity.
there will be no settling going on if you have it in your trunk, unless you have an extremely smooth ride. lol. settling only works when the cubies are not constatly getting jostled around.
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^Yes I know that, but some of my stops will be for several days. I would use some the cubies to stock up on oil so that I can settle the oil when I'm at my location, and some for clean oil that I can pour into the tank. Also I'd like to have some cubies NOW so I can start experimenting with the oil just so that I have some experience with it and can see what works best, what doesn't, etc.

^^I've looked a bit at that forum the last couple days, its fantastic. Great reference, I'll definitely post about my project there in the next couple weeks.

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Old 06-24-2008, 10:45 PM
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I would suggest against using oil that you only let settle for a few days. common method is to settle for longer, filter filter filter, slowly heat to allow suspended particles, water, sugars, etc to settle also. the ones in your trunk wont settle just from sitting for a few days. if you end up contacting anyone from fillup4free.com, im sure most would be more than happy to give you filtered, dewatered oil instead. i can offer you a trunk load.
im not sure where to buy new cubies, but you can check with any restaurant and ask for an empty. especially if they are tossing them out.
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I've seen "heaters" on the injection lines leading to the motor that apparently can heat up to 200*, where can I find these? Would that solve some of the heating issues related to the injectors? I have NO idea what they are made up of (a hot wire maybe?), but I was planning on putting these on my car considering the time of year I'll be on the road.

It won't hurt especially if you mess up and forget to shut down on diesel, but the greasecar system is a two tank system and you are supposed to start and stop on diesel or Bio-diesel. If you do it dosen't matter if your pump and lines are cold. My discussion with forced injection was assuming cold starts with straight VO.

I don't know where to get the line heaters. If you check the WVO links and poke around the net I'm sure you can find them, or someone else on the forum will know. I assume they are just ordinary resistance wire line heaters.

I would trust the GreaseCar people, if you buy their complete kit and install and use it as per instructions I don't think you need to get bogged down with every gimick that comes along.

BTW, you may want to swallow your macho and take along a hair dryer (or heat gun) just in case you do forget. It's a lot easeyer on your Injection pump if you run a hair dryer on it for 15 min or so befor starting on a cold morning if you forget and shut down on VO.

Another thing I'm wondering about is where I can find cubies for sale. Is there an internet supplier or some place I can pick them up locally? I want to have a couple in my trunk both for settling and for extra capacity.

I'd just get a couple of 5 Gal fuel containers. The orange ones they use for diesel would be nice. Or some surplus military containers, they are rugged. The cubies the oil is packed in are cheep, intended to be disposable or recycled after one use, they don't stand up long to sunlight or rough handling.

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[quote=colincoon;1892874]^Yes I know that, but some of my stops will be for several days. I would use some the cubies to stock up on oil so that I can settle the oil when I'm at my location, and some for clean oil that I can pour into the tank. Also I'd like to have some cubies NOW so I can start experimenting with the oil just so that I have some experience with it and can see what works best, what doesn't, etc.

Resturants that use bulk waist tanks for their oil usually have plenty of them in the trash. Ask first to be polite.
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Hummmm thats a good idea about the military surplus tanks, although it would be better if they were clear I guess. I'll have to keep a lookout for a good substitute for the cubies if you say they don't really hold up to heat very well. As for heating the block, yes I probably will bring a hair dryer or something to get the injector lines warm atleast or just run it on diesel a lot longer to make sure everything is nice and warm. Too bad the older MB's didn't have a block heater yet! I might still use the injector heaters depending on both how much time I have, and how necessary they really are. I just want to be certain that the oil is the right temp before it hits the injectors. Speaking of which, does the greasecar kit come with an oil temp gauge? Or is that a custom built thing? I've seen videos of them somewhere, and I don't know how necessary it is, but it looks like it would help a little.

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Old 06-25-2008, 01:36 PM
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By the way, if anyone sees a decent condition 300TD for sale, let me know! I probably won't be able to pick it up now, but I would like to have one picked out for when I have the funds. I'm having a hard time finding one close to where I am or in decent enough condition.

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Old 06-25-2008, 01:55 PM
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there are a few 300TDT's on the internet in FL for sale as well as 300D-T's

sell ya mine for 5k

check craigslist

http://crazedlist.org/index.cgi?areas=124,125,186,20,203,219,236,237,238,329,330,331,332,333,37,39,80&catAbbreviation=car& query=mercedes%20diesel&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max&thiscat=8&submit=Search
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^Do you have a link that isn't "crazed list"? It wont work for me. Also I'm not looking for anything immediately obviously, I just need to keep my eye out for "the one" if that makes sense. And I'm still leaning towards a 300TD, just because of its capacity (and I can call it the manwagon!).

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You can read up on a similar trip....
http://www.boston.com/travel/gallery/green_bus/?
They generally don't leave the articles up more than a few days...
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Hello again guys!

Not a whole lot has really happened that I can show, but I am really working a lot on this project in the last week and a half before school starts. I did get permission to do this project, so my travel time will be in March and April. I'll be doing a lot of preparation in February, and decided for a few reasons to wait until it warmed up a tad before actually heading out. I'm still trying to link my destinations together to make a "loop" around the country, and it looks like I'll be in a lot of states! I've got a letter going out to my school's community asking for donations and explaining the project. Still working on getting the website up, but that is more on my school's end then mine right now. I've been looking REALLY REALLY hard for a 300TD for sale that A) Is somewhat close to me, B) is affordable, and C) is affordable without having too many hindering problems. I might have to settle for a regular 300D depending on what I can find around here.

Thats pretty much it so far. Once school kicks in I'll be able to really get a lot more done.

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Affordable and TD don't seem to know each other.

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