Exactly! They don't. Nobody bothers them. They just motor along. Besides the tax dollars that the state and federal government is loosing is TINY in comparison to all the gas and diesel that gets bought. Approximately 1% of passenger vehicles in the US are diesel powered. And at the very most I'd guess that 10% of those vehicles are running non taxed fuel fuel. So that would be .1% of the fuel used in this country being non taxed. I think the only way to fairly tax people with all the different types of non-petroleum based fuel is by the miles they drive each year.

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I also think it is sad that we use oil in our engines as lubrication!

It is such a waste to use it when we can turn it into diesel for our wonderful engines.

Everyone knows that astroglide is the best lubricate for engines!

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-Typos courtesy of my mobile phone.

For those of you not fortunate enough to have been born or live in Virginia, the Mother of Presidents and Birthplace of our Nation, we have no road taxes here. Road construction is funded mainly by a sales tax on fuel and with Federal tax dollars. I make and use my own biodiesel and am breaking no laws.

I even tried to pay tax to the State but there is no mechanism in place to do so. There is also, IIRC, a 400 gallon per year exemption for Federal taxes as well.

The last version of the bill I read did away with the $400/year license fee for personal use and allowed for transport of up to 275 gallons at a time with a limit of 1321 gallons WVO and Biodiesel in storage on your property.

For the same reason that a person with a small efficient house on a small property pays property taxes just like someone with a sprawling mansion.

You might use less fuel with a high MPG car, but the fuel you do use, is still taxed. Running WVO avoids road tax entirely.

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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

As a CPA and as an elected public official not too sure where to start on this one. Dude with small efficient house on small property probably pays a lot less in property taxes than dude in McMansion. Now if your argument is they are both next door neighbors and consume the exact same amount of police, fire and other public services at different tax rates I might bite. I digress. Point here is Prius driver gets lauded and WVO guy gets screwed for doing the exact same thing. No difference.

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"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work" - Thomas Edison-
1979 300SD
1975 450SL
2014 Ram Cummins Megacab (tow rig)

First off, I don't mind pay road taxes, those who use the road should pay for them. I pay fuel taxes. Since Jan of 2008 I have spent exactly $1059.20(377.3 gallons) on diesel fuel to power my VO powered 240D, in Oregon state and federal road tax adds up to just under 50 cents a gallon. So I've paid about $185 in road tax since Jan of 2008.

A hybrid electric uses the gas engine only some of the time, the rest of the time it is using an alternative source of energy to move the vehicle. My VO powered 240 uses the diesel engine some of the time and also uses an alternative source of energy to move the vehicle around. As far as taxes go, me getting 50mpg on the petroleum I get from the pump, which I pay for, and using WVO to supplement the energy I use is no different that a Prius who is getting 50mpg on the petroleum energy they use and supplementing their power with electricity. If we both drive 1000 miles and get 50mpg on the petroleum fuel we buy, we are both paying the same in road tax. Why should I pay more in taxes?

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Michael LaFleur

'05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles
'86 300SDL - 360,000 miles
'85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold)
'89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold)
'85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold)
'98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold)
'75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold)
'83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-(
'61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes
2004 Papillon (Oliver)
2005 Tzitzu (Griffon)
2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba)

X3!

I will add a gallon of wvo to a tank of diesel . . . runs smoother, and smells better too!

Are they gonna give me a refund for the road tax I have spent on fuel in my chainsaw, trimmer, tractor, off road motorcycle . . . ?

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82 240D Manual 277K and still rolling!
02 Volvo S60 AWD For Sale

Iwould love to live out on the west coast as well but family keeps me here for now.

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86 300SDL. 250,xxx on #14 Head. One eye always on temp gauge.. Cruising towards 300K

Not completely true. for the over the road trucks there is a $.16 a gallon surcharge per gallon burned in VA. Which is paid quarterly.

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86 300SDL. 250,xxx on #14 Head. One eye always on temp gauge.. Cruising towards 300K

you can claim your road tax used in off road engines on your taxes...

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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Absolutely agree.

Some of the argument against HB1322 here in Virginia is that those that are pushing the bill have the most to be gained by it. The national Rendering houses. There are small start up Bio-Diesel Coops that are trying to establish in Virginia but will be hindered. There is also the extra expense of having local govt regulate the new laws passed down from this bill. Restaurants having to show where their oil is going, inspectors having to do more work to follow this new law. All for what? For the exclusivity of a big rendering company that has a representative in their pocket.

I hope some of you see past your blood red hatred of VO users to see the bigger picture. This is much more serious than blind mindset of following the herd to the petrol pump. If we are EVER going to break away from foreign oil and foster innovation that fuels a better, cleaner future, Bills like this must be killed.

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83 300TD (need rear wiper assembly dead or alive)
84 300SD Daily driver
85 300TD almost 400k miles and driven daily.
98 E300D *sold
86 300SDL *sold and made flawless 10 hour journey to new home.

All of you need to realize that you are the government, you sent those legislators to what ever State Capitol to represent YOU.

You need to become a lobbyist to represent what you want from your Legislators.

Lobby for EXEMPTION of road use taxes in your state by contacting your legislators and explaining to them the exact nature of your wants in relation to WVO. That is what I did in Washington State and we are exempt from paying road use tax on WVO and bio D for personal consumption. My quest took 6 months and $300.00 for printing. My legislators wrote the bills and I lobbied both houses. Any time there was a hearing on the bills I was there to testify and walk the halls of the legislature and knock on doors. I spoke to the receptionist and explained my situation and asked if they were interested in reading information about WVO and its use as a fuel. Everyone was interested, not one individual was rude or disinterested. In fact they were all surprised that you were supposed to pay road use tax. My bill that passed, 1 died in session, HB3188 in WA, actually passed 94 to 1.

If anyone would like information I would be glad to pass along what I did, just PM me and I will respond.

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Gary
OBK #37

The government does not need to make a law to exempt my environmentally friendly vehicle from fuel tax. That saves government time and tax dollars. There is a biodiesel tax credit for buying biodiesel. So by common sense, using wvo also would have a tax credit if it was sold in gas stations everywhere since it is actually more enviro friendly than biodiesel. So by the good virtue of common sense, no one needs to waste time and officially extend all the enviro tax credits to wvo users. But that does not make us any less entitled too them. In fact , wvo users are the most entitled to any environmentally friendly fuel tax credit since its the most eviro friendly fuel.

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What Would Rudolph Do?
1975 300D, 1975 240D, 1985 300SD, 1997 300D, 2005 E320 , 2006 Toyota Prius

Oh yeah, and the federal tax on diesel at the pump is like 15 cents or something a gallon and the biodiesel tax credit is 1 cent per percent biodiesel from new oil and i think .5 cent for used. So really, if I use 99% wvo (really a form of biodiesel) and 1 % diesel, i should be getting 50 cents from government per gallon of wvo I burn.
I'm gonna look into that.

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What Would Rudolph Do?
1975 300D, 1975 240D, 1985 300SD, 1997 300D, 2005 E320 , 2006 Toyota Prius