Careful with that WVO in Virginia - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

biopete · #31 03-17-2010, 02:37 PM

This is great! I would love do same here in TN even though we don't have a problem. I'm changing my tune a bit here as i just said they don't need to make a law to exempt me from tax. But really we should be getting any biodiesel tax credit. And its good progressive policy to have wvo accepted as a fuel.

Too bad we can't get US off of soy oil.

Could you email me your files you used. I'll pm my email.

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Originally Posted by bluebird

All of you need to realize that you are the government, you sent those legislators to what ever State Capitol to represent YOU.

You need to become a lobbyist to represent what you want from your Legislators.

Lobby for EXEMPTION of road use taxes in your state by contacting your legislators and explaining to them the exact nature of your wants in relation to WVO. That is what I did in Washington State and we are exempt from paying road use tax on WVO and bio D for personal consumption. My quest took 6 months and $300.00 for printing. My legislators wrote the bills and I lobbied both houses. Any time there was a hearing on the bills I was there to testify and walk the halls of the legislature and knock on doors. I spoke to the receptionist and explained my situation and asked if they were interested in reading information about WVO and its use as a fuel. Everyone was interested, not one individual was rude or disinterested. In fact they were all surprised that you were supposed to pay road use tax. My bill that passed, 1 died in session, HB3188 in WA, actually passed 94 to 1.

If anyone would like information I would be glad to pass along what I did, just PM me and I will respond.

JEBalles · #32 03-17-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pch2021

I say we ban WVO use nationwide. I will sign the "endangered vehicles act" as my first task as future president of this country. Grease belongs in fertilizer, not in fuel tanks.

Wow, sounds like you'd be a great president! You've got my vote!

Section106 · #33 03-17-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by buffa98

Not completely true. for the over the road trucks there is a $.16 a gallon surcharge per gallon burned in VA. Which is paid quarterly.

Yeah, but I'm not driving an out-of-state, over-the-road semi. But I see your point and thank you for adding all the facts.

compress ignite · #34 03-18-2010, 03:11 AM

That Stinks !
how can the legislature be so corrupt/stupid ?

Doan gets me wrong,the average IQ in the Georgia statehouse is shy of 75.

AND the average bribe is lunch @ the Varsity.

(And there ain't nothing wrong with food @ the Varsity,
but the Cardiologist says it's a twice a year treat.)

latitude500 · #35 03-18-2010, 11:13 AM

It’s pretty easy to pay your road tax, you need to do quarterly. All you have to do is fill out form 720 and send them a check in the mail. Just tell them how many gallons your burning and then times it by the amount you owe per gallon and that’s it.
It’s an easy way to stay legal and the IRS will leave you alone. The money goes to pay for roads and the highway system and here in Texas we have a great highway system in place. SO PAY YOUR ROAD TAX.
To be honest I wouldn’t be able to afford my battle tank 300sdl if I didn’t burn WVO. I would go back to driving my Jetta that got 48-50mpg.
I do agree that you should convert your car with a kit before you start burning WVO, because your going to damage your car if you just pure it right into the stock tank. Greasecar is what I’ve been using for years and I love it.

Good Luck,

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Originally Posted by JEBalles

You know, I'd gladly pay the honkin' road tax... I just have no idea how

And that Virginia law... $400, just for the permit?! Way to discourage the use of bio-fuels. Go global warming!

buffa98 · #36 03-18-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Section106

Yeah, but I'm not driving an out-of-state, over-the-road semi. But I see your point and thank you for adding all the facts.

If you dont buy at an exempt pump I am pretty sure that price is added back in, I could be wrong in VA. They do it that way in IN. One price for exempt and another for non exempt.

Federal tax is $.244 a gallon on dieseil

el sea · #37 03-18-2010, 01:23 PM

I think 'ROAD TAX' should be based on the type of tires you buy, not the type of fuel or vehicle you drive.

El Sea/L.C.

Suckin Sludge & Havin a Gas

johninva · #38 03-18-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Section106

For those of you not fortunate enough to have been born or live in Virginia, the Mother of Presidents and Birthplace of our Nation, we have no road taxes here. Road construction is funded mainly by a sales tax on fuel and with Federal tax dollars. I make and use my own biodiesel and am breaking no laws.

I even tried to pay tax to the State but there is no mechanism in place to do so. There is also, IIRC, a 400 gallon per year exemption for Federal taxes as well.

The last version of the bill I read did away with the $400/year license fee for personal use and allowed for transport of up to 275 gallons at a time with a limit of 1321 gallons WVO and Biodiesel in storage on your property.

the link to the bill in the original post has some pretty recent dates on it and appears to have been voted on and passed. where can I find this latest version of the bill you speak of that does away with the 400 and the rest

JEBalles · #39 03-18-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by el sea

I think 'ROAD TAX' should be based on the type of tires you buy, not the type of fuel or vehicle you drive.

El Sea/L.C.

Suckin Sludge & Havin a Gas

+ how many miles you drive. They keep track of it anyway and that's a more fair way of paying. Does it make sense that the guy with the Lambo with the slicks that gets 8 miles per gallon and only drives a thousand miles a year pays the same amount of road tax as the guy with the Toyota Corrola that get's 40 miles per gallon, puts studs on in the winter, and drives five thousand miles a year?

Biodiesel300TD · #40 03-18-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JEBalles

+ how many miles you drive. They keep track of it anyway and that's a more fair way of paying. Does it make sense that the guy with the Lambo with the slicks that gets 8 miles per gallon and only drives a thousand miles a year pays the same amount of road tax as the guy with the Toyota Corrola that get's 40 miles per gallon, puts studs on in the winter, and drives five thousand miles a year?

I agree milage is the best way to cover taxes.

el sea · #41 03-18-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Biodiesel300TD

I agree milage is the best way to cover taxes.

I think we are saying the same, BUT I don't want Big Brother Monitoring the milage I put on my vehicles.

When I drive my 3/4 ton truck 2000 miles and then my 76'240D 2000 miles, my wear and tear on the highway is much different. Then a semi, if it drives 2000 miles there is another wear factor. Now if the tax was based on the tires, each vehicle would have a different tax rate based on weight, braking horsepower, etc.

El Sea/ L.C.

Suckin Sludge & Havin a Gas

PS: You should hear my recommendation on the sale of Cold Beer!

buffa98 · #42 03-18-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by el sea

I think 'ROAD TAX' should be based on the type of tires you buy, not the type of fuel or vehicle you drive.

El Sea/L.C.

Suckin Sludge & Havin a Gas

Well ther is a Highway use tax that is paid by heavy vehicles. $550 a year. There is also federal excise tax on a lot of trucking type things Tires etc. Last I new it was 12% of sale price. Enough of that talk about milage fees

. I average about 25k a year.

smitherz · #43 03-18-2010, 08:58 PM

Whether or not you agree with running WVO or not I was considering getting some from a local 5 guys burger joint near me and doing some home brew biodiesel. However, this quote from that bill

(...Not obtain waste kitchen grease from (i) a container owned by another registered transporter of waste kitchen grease, (ii) a food establishment under contract with a registered transporter of waste kitchen grease...)

would suggest I would have to put my own container not bigger that 55 gallons at the site and have them fill it instead of pumping it from an existing tank which they probably have a contract with a company to haul off. That in itself makes this not feasible for me to do.

I just noticed the link near the top of the page for "history" that has detailed dates and also this text...

"...Requires any person who transports waste kitchen grease to register with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services unless he qualifies for an individual exemption...."

I wonder what you have to do for the exemption. (I added the emphasis.)

Section106 · #44 03-19-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by johninva

the link to the bill in the original post has some pretty recent dates on it and appears to have been voted on and passed. where can I find this latest version of the bill you speak of that does away with the 400 and the rest

To be honest, I didn't read the link in the OP. I was just going by what was being discussed on the biodiesel.infopop forum. The language posted over there was from the Senate sub-commitee amendments.

I make my own biodiesel from WVO I collect every Friday from an Italian restaurant down the street. It's 10-15 gallons every week that they kindly put back into the original cubies. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay $400 a year to transport something freely given to me approximately 2 miles to my house.

If Virginia seriously wants to come after me then they had better have fixed all the real problems we already have.