How is it that veggie oil can be a hazardous material? It's biodegradable, not harmful to people or animals, and it's not flammable.

And most of those people not operating on a commercial scale are collecting oil from places that only have 5 or 10 gallons a week and really aren't worth the big producers bothering with. It's a commodity now, where as it used to be waste that people had to pay to get rid of. Now the restaurants are getting paid for the stuff.

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I still believe it to be unnecessary legislature.

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83 300TD (need rear wiper assembly dead or alive)
84 300SD Daily driver
85 300TD almost 400k miles and driven daily.
98 E300D *sold
86 300SDL *sold and made flawless 10 hour journey to new home.

I totally agree, that was my point. What is the use of spending time and money to make legislation that affect at most .25% of the driving population? There are much better things to spend tax payers time and money on.

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Tell you what, dump a hundred gallons of it on your lawn and wait a few days. Then tell us if you still feel the same way

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.

Well, it'd be gross, but not hazardous.

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1983 240D 3.0T 4-speed manual, now sold

1989 Subaru GL Wagon 5-speed Touring Edition

And it would be a mess, but again not a hazardous. As would a tanker of milk if it dumped it's load on the street.

If I have 10 gallons of veg oil in my trunk in cubies, and I get in a horrible accident. The emergency people aren't going to have to worry about being coming in contact with the veg oil.

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And the purpose of this experiment?

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83 300TD (need rear wiper assembly dead or alive)
84 300SD Daily driver
85 300TD almost 400k miles and driven daily.
98 E300D *sold
86 300SDL *sold and made flawless 10 hour journey to new home.

Passenger cars would never destroy a highway regardless of miles driven and should be exempt except for a nominal fuel tax to maintain the highways and has nothing to do with homemade grease oil fuel burners, if they want to use the stuff in their Mercedes. Overweight TRUCKS should pay ALL EXPENSES to repair the highways that they DESTROY! States, ever since Theodore Roosevelt, have never seen a FREEDOM or opportunity for The People to be Free that they didn't want to CONQUER after legislators began serving Corporate Interests rather than serving The People's Interests. Government is TOO BIG! Get rid of all government jobs and then see what legislators would pass when they had to live off of their own merits and skills to be independently free rather than living off of THE PEOPLE like FAT CATS and killing freedom and independence through their legislation to support their "existence" at the behest of corporations. States are WE! We need to support FREEDOM!

BenzDiesel

The way I read the final version, if its for individual personal use, you don't have to register.

"A. An individual who transports waste kitchen grease for his own conversion to biofuel shall not be required to register pursuant to § 3.2-5509 provided that he:

1. Transports waste kitchen grease in a container or containers with a total capacity of no more than 275 gallon on any one vehicle at any time;

2. Possesses or controls no more than 1,320 gallons of waste kitchen grease, biofuel feedstock derived from waste kitchen grease, or biofuel at any time, excluding biofuel contained in vehicle fuel tanks used to power the vehicle's movement; and

3. Does not obtain waste kitchen grease from (i) a container owned by a registered transporter of waste kitchen grease, (ii) a food establishment under contract with a registered transporter of waste kitchen grease, or (iii) a container owned by a renderer or collection center."

So for the individual greaser this doesn't seem so troublesome.

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Muleears
'07 E320 Bluetec 133K my DD
'04 Jaguar XJ8 VDP, 34K
'10 Hyundai Accent 60K Grocery Getter
'02 VW Golf soon to be on the road again
'97 E300 Diesel Son's DD
'61 VERY tolerant wife

Hampton Roads, VA USA

Gone but not forgotten:
'67 250S 95K
'86 300SDL
'87 300D Turbo, 364K! R.I.P.
'98 E300 Turbodiesel, 213K
'02 S420, 164K
'01 Prius 138K

#3 effectively makes it nearly impossible to have a place to get the grease. It's like a bill saying you can live free and happy in your State, but you have to wear a plastic bag tied over your head, but you don't have to wear a grocery store size plastic bag over your head and can buy a big plastic bag like ones used to collect trash if you wanted to have a little more air. However, the end result will be the SAME. You will suffocate and be history. The sponsor of that bill is in the POCKET and is bought and paid for!

BenzDiesel

I think #3 is there so that you have to make a contract with the supplier, probably because some people take it from places that have contracts and when they get caught, they argue that they're just taking garbage and it's not illegal. I don't contradict it, I talked to a restaurant and they drain the oil back into the containers it came in.

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1983 240D 3.0T 4-speed manual, now sold

1989 Subaru GL Wagon 5-speed Touring Edition

Well then Tax Hybirds for $100 a month in fuel they don't buy then.

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1999 w140, quit voting to old, and to old to fight, a god damned veteran

This part "(ii) a food establishment under contract with a registered transporter of waste kitchen grease,"

basically is all food places I can imagine since you know they have to get rid of the stuff. Therefore there is an extremely high probability of them having a contract with someone registered. Even if they put it back in their source containers or not. I know I can't handle all of the WVO from a place all the time.

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Scott - K3PSO
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1984 300D turbo ~203k miles
2008 FourWinds Hurricane 31' RV

Past
'85 300D turbo ~280k miles
'83 300D turbo ~300k miles
'05 Mini Cooper convertible
'96 BMW R1100-RT
'71 Honda CB175 - multi-winter project
'82 Honda CB450 NightHawk
'85 300D turbo ~328k miles
'75 BMW 2002
'66 Beetle

The two restaurants I collect from, I collect all their grease. They don't have a contract with anyone. I get 10 gal/week from one and about 7 from the other. Neither has a container from a contractor.

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Muleears
'07 E320 Bluetec 133K my DD
'04 Jaguar XJ8 VDP, 34K
'10 Hyundai Accent 60K Grocery Getter
'02 VW Golf soon to be on the road again
'97 E300 Diesel Son's DD
'61 VERY tolerant wife

Hampton Roads, VA USA

Gone but not forgotten:
'67 250S 95K
'86 300SDL
'87 300D Turbo, 364K! R.I.P.
'98 E300 Turbodiesel, 213K
'02 S420, 164K
'01 Prius 138K

Amen brother. Thats me too. I take all the oil from both places I collect from. I get 10-15 gallons a week, and they put the oil back in the original containers and I haul it off. There isn't a formal contract, but I do pay a little for each gallon. Problems for the resturants arise when someone only take their oil sometimes. Then they've got an excess of waste oil that they don't know what to do with, so you've got to keep on top of it, or they will find another taker.

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