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Old 01-23-2011, 02:16 AM
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Anyone here have a little co-op for BioDiesel?

I've been thinking about processing my own BioDiesel for my 1985 300D, but when I consider it, it seems to make sense to think slightly bigger and process this fuel for 2-4 vehicles at once.

Is there anyone here who would admit to being involved with a small (1-2 family) BioDiesel co-op? I could keep my car fueled, a friend's car and add to my fleet (Honey, I wouldn't have to pay for fuel).

My ultimate dream would be to use a restored MB diesel truck or van to pick up the WVO for processing!

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Old 01-25-2011, 06:54 PM
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I am involved with a few friends in collecting, settling WVO with the intent of exchanging for BioDiesel. We are members of a local BioDiesel Coop that isnt producing as they are searching for a proper location to operate. In the meantime, the oil we collect gets sold to other brewers in the short term while we wait for things to get going.

This is a great idea if you can make it happen easily. Many people involved to regularly participate will make it work.

Best of luck.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:28 AM
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:31 AM
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I am involved with a few friends in collecting, settling WVO with the intent of exchanging for BioDiesel. We are members of a local BioDiesel Coop that isnt producing as they are searching for a proper location to operate. In the meantime, the oil we collect gets sold to other brewers in the short term while we wait for things to get going.

This is a great idea if you can make it happen easily. Many people involved to regularly participate will make it work.

Best of luck.
This is what is stopping me from creating a small biodiesel project: I still work two jobs and have no help for anything.

A small biodiesel project would be a great thing.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:43 PM
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After searching for a place local to me to buy biodiesel I finally came upon a co-op, it took a lot of searching but I found one. They aren't producing at the moment but it should be up again soon. Have you searched online for one in your state or area? Craigslist is a good place to look as well, check if anyone is selling biodiesel and contact them about donating WVO in exchange for fuel/lower price on fuel or starting something up.
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Old 03-06-2011, 05:02 AM
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Do you guys have to inform anybody that your running on biodiesel? Also what is the duty rate or tax per liter? I'm in england, so we are supposed to inform revenue, customs and excise and then pay tax on it at a rate of twenty pence per liter. We also have a limit on how much fuel we can make for "personal use", or we get classified as a "commercial operation" and get hammered by the goverment.
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Old 03-06-2011, 05:36 AM
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Do you guys have to inform anybody that your running on biodiesel? Also what is the duty rate or tax per liter? I'm in england, so we are supposed to inform revenue, customs and excise and then pay tax on it at a rate of twenty pence per liter. We also have a limit on how much fuel we can make for "personal use", or we get classified as a "commercial operation" and get hammered by the goverment.
You have to pay taxes on it here as well, or at least should. I'm not sure on personal production limits, how will they know?
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As I understand it, here in the US it depends on which state you live in. Here in NC there is no tax on biodiesel, WVO, etc. Others are different. Check with your local state authorities to find out...
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:57 AM
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biodiesel refiners

Gentlemen,

I am presently consulting a small business on how to reuse their WVO. They use high quality soybean oil.

Does anyone have 1st person experience with manufactured biodiesel refiners suitable for 120 gallons a month?

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not 1st person but

I believe these are the Caddilac oops Mercedes of biodiesel processors. Not cheap but selfcontained and pushbutton operation. I built my own but it is crude compared to these babys.
http://utahbiodieselsupply.com/biopro380.php
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:33 AM
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I believe these are the Caddilac oops Mercedes of biodiesel processors. Not cheap but selfcontained and pushbutton operation. I built my own but it is crude compared to these babys.
http://utahbiodieselsupply.com/biopro380.php
Thanks BigBlock,

Am I to infer that the $2k-$4k refiners are not satisfactory? The utah machines looks robust but the cost would require a larger fleet to amortize the costs.

Are there plans so we could wrench one together that could achieve "pushbutton" operation?

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Old 03-09-2011, 02:34 PM
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Lots of choices

There are many companies who will be happy to take your 2-4K$ for a plastic conebottom processor worth less than the 1K$ it takes to build but it is still mostly a manual process requiring interaction from you. Getting to the level of sophistication for pushbutton operation necessary for reliable operation is not cheap. You can do some research on the biodiesel infopop forums about what people(including me) have put together. Some are dirt cheap steel drums or converted water heaters, some are plastic conebottom tanks but I have yet to see anything automatic (other than the biopro) that I would trust to make fuel I am putting in my fuel tank. I prefer to take control of the process manually, with a bit of experience it is quite possible to consistantly produce good fuel, just takes time. The best idea is to do some research for a while to get some ideas before spending money on a ripoff unit. The most difficult part of making bio is actually securing a good continuing source of oil. Crappy oil is not worth working with even if it is free so beware. Cheers Dan
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:14 AM
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There are many companies who will be happy to take your 2-4K$ for a plastic conebottom processor worth less than the 1K$ it takes to build but it is still mostly a manual process requiring interaction from you. Getting to the level of sophistication for pushbutton operation necessary for reliable operation is not cheap. You can do some research on the biodiesel infopop forums about what people(including me) have put together. Some are dirt cheap steel drums or converted water heaters, some are plastic conebottom tanks but I have yet to see anything automatic (other than the biopro) that I would trust to make fuel I am putting in my fuel tank. I prefer to take control of the process manually, with a bit of experience it is quite possible to consistantly produce good fuel, just takes time. The best idea is to do some research for a while to get some ideas before spending money on a ripoff unit. The most difficult part of making bio is actually securing a good continuing source of oil. Crappy oil is not worth working with even if it is free so beware. Cheers Dan
Thanks Dan,

My client has a source of good oil, but I don't think the amount (>150 gallons per month) justifies a $14k purchase.

Are there realistic plans for a "kit?"

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