1999 E 300 TD Biodiesel - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Renntag · #16 02-13-2012, 01:24 PM

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Thank all of you folks for the replies. I was about to trade in the 1999 E300 TD for an 1980's model just so I could run biodiesel

I laugh when I hear commentary about running Biodiesel in a diesel motor. No one ever mentions that even if you only run DinoDiesel (D2, petro diesel, etc) at some point you will need to replace supply and return hoses. Biodiesel can be used in just about any diesel motor with rubber hoses and seals. At some point hoses and seals have to be replaced regardless of what fuel you use. To say that BioDiesel has a negative effect on a diesel motor with 100-200K miles by pointing to a leaking hose that would have been leaking petrodiesel soon anyway, is a bit insulting. Taking a logical look at this would make anyone question the true science of these claims. There is no data showing long term effects on an E300D run exclusively on Biodiesel from day one. The only biased info is taken once they are 10 years old and in need of maintenance. Not a fair comparison.

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.Now I feel I won't have to do that 'cause I really like the car.

We like ours too. Awesome car.

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Freesoul... Can you tell a novice like myself what a DPF is?

Let me google that for you
(Sorry, couldnt resist)

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Has anyone tried to use SVO properly filtered

I prefer to use unfiltered SVO.

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in the 1999 E300 TD in a two tank system,

There is no such vehicle as a 99 E300TD in the US (or anywhere I believe).

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such as the greasecar company sells

There are several and they all have pros and cons. There is belief that the plumbing around the IP needs to be changed to eliminate lines under vacuum and favour being under pressure instead. The reason is that under vacuum a leak can manifest as power lost due to air entering fuel stream. A pressure set up has less effect on driveability as fuel leaks out and can be identified by visual inspection without risk of air mixed fuel.

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Is there a performance chip for this same model that would increase gas mileage?

Anytime you increase the performance of a diesel motor, you also increase efficiency (to a point.) nearly all diesels available to us follow this pattern. They work less to do the same task, thus using less fuel. Digital enhancements help in this realm.
On another note, I find it funny that people say "Gas mileage" when talking about diesels, the motors that dont use Gas.

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The computer, I was told has already been retuned for maximum mpg.

Did the previous owner tell you this? Any indication?

On another note, The 96-99 E300D is just that , E300D. By noting the model year, we know 96-97 are N/A and 98-99 are turbo. No need for the "T" as that designates a Touring model, or Wagon which in the W210 was not available with a diesel motor (sadly).

Go forth into the world of alternative fuels and enjoy your OM606 powered Benz.

ROLLGUY · #17 02-15-2012, 03:31 PM

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There is no such vehicle as a 99 E300TD in the US (or anywhere I believe).

Go to your local Autozone and ask for a part and tell them you have a '98 E300. They will look it up and tell you that the only E300 they have listed is an E300TD.
You are correct that: "On another note, The 96-99 E300D is just that , E300D. By noting the model year, we know 96-97 are N/A and 98-99 are turbo. No need for the "T" as that designates a Touring model, or Wagon which in the W210 was not available with a diesel motor (sadly).", but there are many places where "TD" COULD mean TurboDiesel (Autozone is only one example). Yes we all know that MB did not make a TD (Touring Diesel) in '98-'99, but in this case the TD is used to denote TurboDiesel, not Touring Diesel.

ROLLGUY · #18 02-15-2012, 03:37 PM

Here is another one, found on the "other site":
W210 E-Class

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1995-2002 : E200, E220D, E240, E290TD, E300, E300TD, E200, E240, E280, E320, E420, E430 (Wagon, Touring, 4Matic)

Renntag · #19 02-15-2012, 05:04 PM

There are many errors on autoparts websites. For example. A 4 wheel drive chevrolet truck is listed as a K/C1500 (or 2500,3500 as needed). Anyone that knows this line, is aware that a K is a different animal than a C.

The people that code the websites dont know apples from oranges.

But bottom line, it just doesnt matter. But if accurate communication is to be had...(?).

zeeman · #20 02-15-2012, 06:29 PM

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There are many errors on autoparts websites. For example. A 4 wheel drive chevrolet truck is listed as a K/C1500 (or 2500,3500 as needed). Anyone that knows this line, is aware that a K is a different animal than a C.

The people that code the websites dont know apples from oranges.

But bottom line, it just doesnt matter. But if accurate communication is to be had...(?).

I don't think we need to split hairs on this one, if it is a 300d or 300td it is a diesel enough said. Your asking advise from AutoZone talk about Apples and Oranges.

ROLLGUY · #21 02-15-2012, 06:33 PM

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But bottom line, it just doesnt matter. But if accurate communication is to be had...(?).

Agreed, it does not matter. It would be very hard to educate everyone the correct way to use the designations, so why try? I try not to get all bent out of shape when I see an ad on CL for a 1982 300TD, only to find out it is a 300D TURBODIESEL. These same ads also say it is "great on gas", so can only assume they don't really know what they have, and I don't bother to educate them either.

zeeman · #22 02-15-2012, 06:39 PM

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Agreed, it does not matter. It would be very hard to educate everyone the correct way to use the designations, so why try? I try not to get all bent out of shape when I see an ad on CL for a 1982 300TD, only to find out it is a 300D TURBODIESEL. These same ads also say it is "great on gas", so can only assume they don't really know what they have, and I don't bother to educate them either.

You can't fix stupid!!!!! If I want a good laugh I go on Craiglist and look a some of the spelling on the adds, cheers me right up.

Renntag · #23 02-16-2012, 10:06 PM

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You can't fix stupid!!!!! If I want a good laugh I go on Craiglist and look a some of the spelling on the adds, cheers me right up.

+1

Agreed.

Agree with Rollguy too.

1fastredsc · #24 02-18-2012, 12:48 PM

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Does the Rocketchip do anything to increase mpg? Or is it strickly for power/ performance?

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Generally OEM's can't advance injection timing to it's optimal setting for efficiency because it also increases NOx emissions, which is also the same reason why under full load they can't go to full stoichiometric, except in that case it's because of HC and CO emissions. However, that's when the aftermarket comes into play. Little advance of the timing and the efficiency of combustion goes up, plus a little extra boost and extra fuel at full load increase overall power and torque with little if any smoke. My 2001 TDI (no longer own) would return 42 mpg at 75mph with AC on a 100 mile round trip commute. After a tune, it got 45mpg under the exact same conditions.

Of course i included the caveat of "exact same conditions" because it is very hard not to use the extra power and decrease your fuel economy. It's as if your brain gets reflashed at the same time, then all of a sudden your right foot feels really heavy.