Fuel priming / air leak theory
hi all,
I replaced my diesel fuel filters on my 300D yesterday. Replaced, filled with fuel, primed, started right up. Sporadically now on startup or seconds thereafter it has a couple stutters which are air in the fuel system. Is it possible I just need have trapped air somehow and need to re-prime, or do I definitely have an air leak? I think the answer is air leak, but just wanted to confirm. thanks, dd |
Did you fill the secondary filter with diesel before you started the priming process?
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whunter - I will give you a call when I am on break. thank you!
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My system is a tad 'special' due to my WVO conversion (that has been in place for 3 yrs / 40k+). The lift pump is plumbed after the secondary filter (as opposed to before it), so that assembly is under vacuum as opposed to pressure. My priming procedure involves loosening the bolt at the inlet to the IP since that the easiest place for me to access that's under pressure. I then pump until I feel that I have gotten the air out (and spilled diesel all over the ground) and then close the bolt and pump until I hear the 'buzz' sound from the IP indicating prime. My question really revolves around if the engine goes on a 50 mile trip just fine, and then has air upon restart, does that definitively indicate an air leak? |
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Do you have a vacuum gauge on the common of your supply valve? That is the most useful diagnostic tool for running WVO. Do you have a clear return line? That is another most useful diagnostic tool. Did you ever fix your starter problems? |
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I don't have a vac gauge or clear tubing. The car stutters when going back to diesel from VO so I know it's a diesel side problem. I did go down to the garage and see that my diesel side clear pre filter half empty. That pretty much nails it....leakity leakity. I tightened hose clamps and the secondary filter. |
Those Mityvac things look great but they cost a fortune here. I just bought a vacuum gauge for 12 euros and a few connection pieces with a bit of tubing. It is better than nothing. (I'm keeping an eye out for a Mityvac thing though - when the price is right I will pounce!)
Oh yeah I agree with funola about a leak somewhere (if that helps)... |
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I tightened all the clamps and didn't see any fuel level drop overnight in the prefilter, but still had some stuttering upon switching back to diesel when I arrived at work. Next chance I get I'll re-lube and re-seat the secondary diesel filter and secondary filter banjo bolt. I didnt touch anything in the fuel system besides the immediate connections to the filters. Thank you all for the help thus far. |
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Thanks for the compressor tip - I might be able to get the same effect with a vacuum cleaner - the motor might race a bit though! I was going to start low-tech with a bicycle pump though... |
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Do you have this fuel configuration: tank > pre filter > filter > 3 way valve > priming pump > IP ? It is just about impossible to purge air out of the system using the priming pump in this configuration with the FSM method. A Mityvac on the return won't work either since the banjo bolt is plugged and you are pulling the pressure relief valve closed. |
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