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Old 03-15-2013, 07:26 PM
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uh oh. here come the nancy naysayers...
Well, there is evidence for both sides of the argument.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:31 PM
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uh oh. here come the nancy naysayers...

annnd with that post, the thread goes into the alt fuel forum...
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:35 PM
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None of the comments so far fall into that category by a long shot.

Fact #1: WVO and SVO/VVO are alternative fuels. They have never been, nor are they now, a mainstream fuel for any mass-production automotive diesel engine in stock form, here in North America.

Fact #2 - WVO and SVO/VVO are acceptable as alternative fuels when used with the correct auxiliary fuel systems, and have been used successfully for decades. The technology involved for their sustainable use (dual tanks, switching, heating the oil to replicate the viscosity of diesel) has been developed by people who have in some cases devoted decades to research, or simple trial and error technical development.

Saying that straight veg of any form is a direct diesel substitute is no more technically correct than saying the same about a mix of used engine oil and diesel or kerosene (to pick on one example of another 'alternative' fuel some folks use on this forum).

What you do with your car is your business, so if you want to do this stuff great, knock yourself out, I'm sick of arguing on that point. That isn't the issue.

What is, is that this is a technical forum that people visit in terms of reliable technical info... and "See, I can dump this stuff in my fuel tank and my car still runs" doesn't make the cut. (Well maybe except for our forum member who lives in Death Valley and runs straight VO in his SD.... at those temps a flat-plate heat exchanger might actually be cooling the VO... LOL.)
Actually I have been Camping in Death Valley in September of 86 and it was really cold and windy during that time. I abandoned My Tent and slept in the Car.

What I see is that People that do their Homework and do everything possible to make sure their Car runs OK on WVO do OK.

The people that just dump the WVO into the tank and think every thing is OK because the Engine runs quieter have a good chance of having issues on down the road.

And, on top of that there is Climate issues.

Another way to look at it is that it is possible to get a Bad Tank of Diesel Fuel; and, that Fuel is supposed to be engineered to burn in Diesel Engines.
It must be even more possible to get a bad Tank Full of WVO because you never know what the WVO is made if.
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It's these kind of stunts that give WVO a bad name.

First off: it's on television. Television is for entertainment.
Watch the Mythbuster guys. (They are not real scientists, they only play scientists on TV.) When their sudo-science approach is not entertaining enough, they just throw it out the window and do something that is entertaining.

My kids would ask to eat at McDonald's. I told them that if they eat McDonald's food they would die. Remember the journalist who ate every meal at McDonald's for a month. At the end of the month his health had deteriorated quite a bit.

What they did in that video was like going to McDonald's for one meal. It won't kill you and will probably have no long term effect on your health. If they did that every day, the car would suffer a premature death. Carbon impacted piston rings most likely.
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