BIODIESEL..When????
My question, will biodiesel ever be universally available anywhere?
Did big petro kill biodiesel with bluetech "clean diesel". Can traditional Diesel be converted to blue?:confused: |
I've heard current availability of the bio that gets turned into diesel is simply not enough. There are % biodiesel mandates, but they perversely effect the other markets for oil: Rainforest and stomachs- in 2008-9 when diesel prices spiked and the 10% biodiesel mandates went into the euro market, burma and indonesia bulldozed rainforest to grow jatropha, and poor folks couldn't afford palm oil, a major 2nd & 3rd world fat & protein source.
Better to look to trash to syngas plants: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/business/trash-into-gas-efficiently-an-army-test-may-tell.html?ref=business They can also use cellulose, like paper and switchgrass as a feedstock to make ethanol and diesel. |
When will BioD be available everywhere? When the market demands it or the governments dictate it. Markets won't ever demand it, and governments won't dictate it because there's already too many vehicles out there that it will cause problems in.
As for killing BioD with clean diesel, yes, to some extent. ATSM-spec BioD has more allowed non-combustible contaminates that will plug the particulate filters. It will also dilute the engine oil when used in engines that use post injection to burn off the soot captured in the particulate filter. As for making a traditional diesel "blue", yes, in theory, add a catOx and a particulate filter to capture all the soot, and a control system for burning off the soot. |
I hear a lot of guys are deleting particulate filters with a high degree of success.
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Yanking out the DPF and reprogramming the computer has great success for lots of guys. They got away with it for a while, but the government cracked down and it's now illegal to manufacture any more from what I know. Most guys with diesel pickups are going from 360hp/6-700lb tq to over 500hp and near 1000lb with just a quick tune, and usually nearly doubling their mileage after doing so.
I'm a Ford guy when I'm not hailing the three pointed star, but Chevy has it right with their post-injection deal from what I've read. The Duramax has a ninth injector that injects the diesel directly downstream into the exhaust so it isn't injected into the engine and then pushed out the valves into the exhaust, causing oil dilution... makes me wonder if it could use some kind of alternative fuel with less ill effects. The coolest biodiesel source from what I understand is algae. A little reading on it will blow your mind. It solves pretty much all of the issues and negative side effects of using food stock or other agriculture land/resources for fuel and seems like it basically cultivates itself. Maybe that's the problem though, not enough money and monopolizeability (yeah, I just made that one up;)) for more research to be put into it. |
I don't get the obsession with biodiesel. I'm perfectly content spending $3.70/gal for 53 cetane 100% crude based diesel fuel. I don't have to modify anything, I don't have to worry about swapping out filters or heating the fuel, I just drive the car. Even if it went up to $5 or $6/gal, my cost per mile would basically be inline with the average 300e driver today. Hardly worth worrying about.
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Hmm. Must be nice. We're paying well over $6/gal with all conversions taken into account here. Most diesels on the road are getting below 20 mpg, so that adds up. German diesels are in a small minority in NA.
There's lots of reasons why. Homebrew bio usually works out to around $1/gal from what I know, minus time invested. WVO is even cheaper - just time and filtering. For people who drive a lot or are just looking to save where they can - it makes a lot of sense. Not too different a mentality than doing DIY repairs. Plus there's that whole thing where you're more self sufficient and burning a renewable resource made from organic matter... instead of buying into that whole nasty petroleum industry and all the nasty evil that comes with it. |
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The price of diesel is due to the enormous amount exported. To make it happen the Gov should stop ethanol subsidies and put the money into alge conversion. |
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http://www.arb.ca.gov/enf/fuels/dieselspecs.pdf In practice the average fuel sold in the state is 55.8 cetane. http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/lcfs/20130731arbwaterboardjointstatementrd.pdfhttp://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/lcfs/20130731arbwaterboardjointstatementrd.pdf I use 1 OZ/gal of TCW3 for lubricity. It costs about 9 cents per gallon. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech-TC-W3-Outboard-2-Cycle-Oil-1-Gallon/16795065 As of late 2011, the US is a net exporter of both refined diesel fuel and crude oil. U.S. Was Net Oil-Product Exporter for First Time Since 1949 - Bloomberg Again, I'm not opposed to bio diesel but I wouldn't go out of my way for it nor would I pay a premium for it. With the amount of nat gas this country has, I expect GTL to become far more common than biodiesel in the next few years and it has cetane number 75-80. |
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There is a biodiesel pump in Philadelphia at the Shell station on 11th and Vine. It's only B20 but it's very good fuel Since 300D tells me so. At that location, it's usually about $.20 cheaper than full dinosaur diesel in town but still not as cheap as regular dino out on the interstates (not the PA turnpike though) where trucks make up most of the volume and help keep the prices down.
Up in NYC there are three stations with varying grades of bio but I've not fueled up at any of them. I hear good things though. So, they are becoming slowly more prevalent, but very slowly. Phil Forrest |
Found ya Phil - it's Jeromie from the RFF.
When do you bring that 220D home? |
I'm up too late. It's like Christmas eve for me. The lovely lady comes to her new hom in a few short hours. I'll be posting photos and certainly showing her off in the next week. I also don't know much about her maintenance history so all the fluids are getting chaned, filters are getting changed and she's gonna get a fresh full tank of B20 from the station I mentioned in my post above. I CAN'T WAIT to get this little gem rolling under my control.
Phil Forrest |
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