HELP!
Information overload.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=WVO%2Cfuel
My brain is stuck in second gear.
Wow; great information, though digestion may take a while.
I would love to stop paying fuel bills and tax.
Do any of you run WVO and what was your conversion cost?

you can convert to svo for less than a thousand bucks. If you spend more than that, you've got problems. Chances are, you could do it for MUCH cheaper. Most of the commercially avail. kits are less than 1k, unless you want Elsbett... Look up Dana Linscott and see his website. heard only good things...
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Howdy,
All the websites listed are good ones. But the best I've found is journeytoforever.org Go to the biofuels section. Larry

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2001 Jetta TDI
1996 Passat TDI wagon

Dana is a member of this board as well!!!

He is rebuilding and converting his dream car (190D) to run on WVO. He is considering selling his own conversion kit. For now he sells plans. Whunter you could buy his plans (30 buks or so) and convert easily with your background.

Here is his links

danalinscott@yahoo.com
http://danalinscott.netfirms.com/

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The Glow Plug Wait: This waiting period is a moment of silence to pay honor to Rudolph Diesel. The longer you own your diesel the more honor you will give him". by SD Blue

My normal daily life; either SNAFUed- Situation Normal... All Fouled Up, or FUBARed- Fouled Up Beyond All Repair

62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD daily driver- both powered by blended UCO fuels

Hello djugurba
Thank you, a wonderful data source.
http://danalinscott.netfirms.com/

he is on the board, wow!

I just received Dana's conversion plans. I'm on my way to WVO burning with biodiesel purge. I already have fitered oil now i need to build the system. I'm thinking I can do it for ~$300 or so including the cost of the plans.

I will keep you posted on how the conversion goes. I have heard good things about his plans from others. I figured it would be well worth the time savings to have plans/instructions.

Stephen

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85 300D 305K miles WVO(105K so far), Mine
82 300SD 235K miles BIO-D, Wifes
96 F250 SC PSD 4X4 285K MILES BIO-D, Ours
89 BRONCO 182K MILES sold
Finally Compression Ignition Only!

I have talked at length with one of the founding members of Greasel (www.greasel.com). He had installed a large number of these kits on everything from 4-cyl VWs to huge coach tour buses. Everything I have heard about them is that the setup works well, and that it's very reliable.

I am looking into the WVO/SVO setup from Greasel. In the meantime, I am looking for good sources of Viton hoses so I can run B100 which is becoming VERY available in Oregon now. I found the McMaster-Carr site, which seems to have many varieties of Viton hoses.

My questions are:
1) How much fuel hose do I need?
2) Has anyone done the rubber-to-Viton conversion? Any tips?
3) It's my understanding that more than just the fuel lines from tank to pump should be replaced with Viton. The tank may need to have all the gunk scrubbed out of it, so you don't have to replace your fuel filter every 300 miles. Aren't there also other places where the B100 would touch rubber, like gaskets in pumps, and in return lines?

TIA!

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'84 300D 267,000 - Running WVO - Rice Bran Oil - Mmmmmm, fishy...
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MonsieurBon, McMaster-Carr is like a throwback to the old general stores, a bit spendy but if you can't find it anywhere else and your time is money... Be very carefull when placing orders; I seem to get the wrong stuff shipped once in ten orders or so. Using the credit card protects yourself. Still a good source, regardless.

You'll have to crawl around the car to see how little hose you need. Most of the length of fuel "hose" is solid metal tubing that doesn't need to be replaced. Be sure to check the inside diameter and temperature rating of the stuff you order.

The other soft stuff is a good concern and I don't think the jury is completely out yet, although the older MBs seem to be the most successful. But if you do the economic analysis then you'll find your own answer.

WVO is hard to find around here, as most of it goes to the perfume and lotion factories. I have found a few places in the boonies, though. My hard spots are finding a cheap small pickup to stick the spare engine into, and dealing with the road tax. North Dakota (an oil producing state) is deliberately backwards when it comes to "citizens competing with the oil company". I even have to pay road tax for purchased home use fuel and apply for a refund later.

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this idea looks better each moment!!!!!

Mr W,
Here is what I did (so far)
I wanted to see about the gathering process for my fuel before I did a bunch o' work with heating a tank, switches, etc., sooooo, last summer I went to northern hydraulics and got a hand crank fuel pump and the inline filter that was sitting on the shelf next to the pumps. The filter is a 10 micron. total cost of about $35.
then I went down to the home center and got some clear hose out of the plumbing dept. and some hose clamps - another $20 or so.
The pump goes maybe 6-7 gallons per minute, and the clear hose lets me see what I am sucking up (water and muck settle to the bottom, so you want your pick-up tube to be close to the top of the grease in the vat. )
I just pump into 5 gallon buckets and let it settle for a week or so. ON a hot day, the oil is pretty thin from sitting in the sun, and I hook on the filter and pump right into the gas tank. I am scared to go 100% WVO in case there is a chilly night, but 65% last August worked great.
I am not sure if I would do all the work to heat the fuel and run 100% WVO - it is appealing, but I don't know when i would find time to do it all. Even 1/2ing my fuel cost is a good start for me.
The only thing I plan to add for the short term is a sock type pre-filter. My inline filter (it is just like the ones that hang on the line at gas pumps) worked great, but was plugged up after about 40 gallons.
A roughly 30% mix took me into October, then my screwon filter clogged when the grease gelled it up.

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'78 300d
'95 volvo 850, wagon
'86 300sdl - engine out, maybe I'll have it rolling by June

whole bunch o' bicycles

I will be changing ASAP.
I would like to use canola oil; if I can find a supply.
Found one at a great price; but I would have to buy 60000 gallons, umm, that would be a problem.

Dana is now/soon to be, selling conversion kits. He is getting his business up and running as we speak.

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by JerryBro

The Glow Plug Wait: This waiting period is a moment of silence to pay honor to Rudolph Diesel. The longer you own your diesel the more honor you will give him". by SD Blue

My normal daily life; either SNAFUed- Situation Normal... All Fouled Up, or FUBARed- Fouled Up Beyond All Repair

62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD daily driver- both powered by blended UCO fuels

Coach--after my research on the process of making biodiesel, I do not want to do it. I am planning a two-tank conversion to go WVO. To steal from Star Trek "Dammit Jim, I'm a [whatever], not a chemist."

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Dana here...

Sorry I did not see this thread before. Been too busy getting geared up to start providing full conversion kits in the next month or so.

I hope to offer a complete but cheap basic conversion kit for under $400...plus shipping.

And I am trying to offer a hard to find parts kit for less so the commonly available parts do not have to be shipped and so save the end customer an unneccesary expense. Shipping of bulky items is stupidly expensive.

I think I have the best design for cold climates...and those in warm climates will save more since some components will not be required that are in a "basic all climate kit".

Regardless of your climate though every conversion needs a "prefilter unit" to clean and dewater the wvo before it is used as fuel. No design currently exists which will allow you to simply pull up to a grease dumpster and fillup your tank with SAFE vegoil fuel. The next best thing is a home prefilter unit which sits in the corner of your garage/carport in a 3x3 area. I have designed such a prefilter which has its own prefiltered vegoil resevoir and a pump so you can just fill your tank at home. I have several hundred satisfied customers for this design which can be easily fabricated for under $100. A primer on gathering, transporting, filtering, and storing wvo is also included.

I do not consider the job done one the sale is made...so I usually offer email consultation for those who purchase my "how to files". I HAVE been providing a lot of consultation to those that do not purchase as well..but as my work load has increased I have had to give customers priority ove rnon-cutomers. Feel free to contact me for info..but a reply may take a few days. Many of your questions may be answered on the FAQ page of my website..and there a a lot of very experienced, friendly, helpful folks on the Maui board as well..much like this board.


And I have marked this discussion to come ot my attention when folks post so I can be a bit more helpful here as well....

Realistically speaking a warm climate conversion (lowest ambient temp of 50*F should cost less than $400 including the prefilter unit. Cost goes up about $100 for every 20*F the lowest ambient temperature drops. This does not include the cost of installation which is can be relativly simple...if some preplanning is done.

BTW...the Mercedes I have helped convert have been the sweetest and simplest of all.

I am still at the point fo deciding what my potential customers will want most...so please feel free to make suggestions. They will be very helpful.

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Vegoil converted truck...vegoil converted 1987 190DT, 300 series next.

http://vegoilconversions.netfirms.com/